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Re: Why are FOH levels so low these days?
      24/09/11 08:48 AM
I'm coming from the other end of the desk.....
and the cheaper end of the gig market.....
the biggest issue i have at gigs - whether playing or watching is not the loudness of the pa - most halfway decent pub venues (the wagon and horses brum, flappers brum, the festivals around midlands/shropshire etc etc) have a pa system that can handle the size of the room and have a decent array of mics....and usually a mix engineer who knows enough to soundcheck and mix on the hoof as it were
it's the bands lack of dynamic knowledge and musical nounce
the guitar player who has to be at 11
the bass player who wants to be at 11 but doesn't have the amp to compete with the guitar player so just distorts his/her midrange and loses all bottom end to a muddy mess
the singer who can't be heard and worse of all can't hear themselves over the guitar player so sings (actually more often than not shouts) out of tune and out of tone
and a drummer who's just thwaking the things....and who can't hear anything cause the guitar amp is ahead of him and all he asks for in his monitors is bass drum and snare - so he can hear them better!

FOH engineers who then just go - [ ****** ] this - and sit down at the desk - all at unity level - cause whats the point!

so - local/small bands - learn some playing technique - you're in a band for pitys sake - play in a band (which means respecting and knowing and playing in context with others!!!)

Im gigging tonight at the actress and bishop in brum btw - heard good things about that venues sound - quite looking forward to it!

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Edited by Wease (24/09/11 08:49 AM)

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* Why are FOH levels so low these days? _ Six _ 11/09/11 10:15 AM
. * Re: Why are FOH levels so low these days? TSH-Tim   01/10/11 06:15 PM
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