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Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console
      21/10/05 07:01 PM
Quote The Byre:

You're telling me customers go to SSL, Amek, et al and say, "Please don't supply this desk with the recommended PSU, go down one model to save a couple of thousand pounds!"




in not so many words.... pretty much...although often not quite as directly as that

it's not penny ante money either.... I've seen some PSU's with prices approaching £10K , in my experience though, it more often kind of happens like....

Originally they Spec a 60 input desk with a producer desk section... and on board RHS patchbay and the required minimum PSU, with no redundant supply or overlap. which is installed... and is operationally fine... (although short sighted in my opinion... )

then a year or two later replace the producer desk section with an extra 12 input strips, but not spend the @£9000 + VAT for an extra supply... and just run the additional cabling from one of the other power looms.

at a cost of nearly 10 grand ex vat, in some cases , you're damn right the "clerk" or A.N.Other person who isn't an electrical or technical audio engineer, figures they can get away with it....

till they get the bill for rewiring the console after the third PSU failure,. when someone else finally gets asked to look at why their Console keeps blowing ONE of the PSU's but the others are fine!

one suspects if penny pincher hadn't already left, they shortly did afterwards.

scarily it's not a unique scenario.... especially when people in more recent past buy desks used .........

it can get very scary.... I know of One Neve installation that blows a PSU out if you put the recommended earth links across between PSU Main and Audio Earth.

I did fervently suggest it get "fixed properly" after having had "fun" tracing a fault with talkback signals being ludicrously noisy.... and discovering this during the process as a side issue.....
The noisy talkback mic issue was finally traced to the Neve as well....

At Eddie, yes mate, I quite agree..... on all points...


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* TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console uncle_steve 20/10/05 09:12 AM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console Mr Edit   22/10/05 06:07 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console The Byre   21/10/05 09:17 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console Hugh RobjohnsAdministrator   22/10/05 10:40 AM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console The Byre   22/10/05 02:48 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console Studio Support Gnome   22/10/05 05:09 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console gerard   21/10/05 08:45 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console Steve Hill   21/10/05 07:49 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console Studio Support Gnome   21/10/05 08:58 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console The Byre   21/10/05 03:33 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console Studio Support Gnome   21/10/05 07:01 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console BigAl   21/10/05 03:46 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console Hugh RobjohnsAdministrator   21/10/05 12:33 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console Tomás Mulcahy   21/10/05 05:38 PM
. * Re: PSUs with British desks Tomás Mulcahy   20/10/05 10:27 PM
. * Re: PSUs with British desks James PerrettModerator   21/10/05 09:41 AM
. * Re: PSUs with British desks Studio Support Gnome   21/10/05 12:07 PM
. * Re: PSUs with British desks jonny stringbender   22/10/05 06:56 PM
. * Re: PSUs with British desks Studio Support Gnome   22/10/05 07:50 PM
. * Re: PSUs with British desks The Byre   23/10/05 02:02 PM
. * Re: PSUs with British desks ZukanModerator   21/10/05 04:10 PM
. * Re: PSUs with British desks Hugh RobjohnsAdministrator   21/10/05 09:01 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console    20/10/05 09:33 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console Hugh RobjohnsAdministrator   20/10/05 10:02 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console The Byre   21/10/05 09:45 AM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console ZukanModerator   21/10/05 07:49 AM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console Jupiter_4   20/10/05 06:22 PM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console gerard   20/10/05 11:29 AM
. * Re: TL Audio M4 32 Channel Valve Console The Byre   20/10/05 11:04 AM

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