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How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby DAGGILARR » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:05 pm

I am fairly new to this and I am trying to record self playing acoustic guitar and I just cannot seem to stop my self thumping away with my foot, its ruining recordings. Any ideas?

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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby tacitus » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:13 pm

Hearing yourself doing it is probably the best incentive to stop doing it. You need physically to practice not tapping your foot - try moving your toe inside your shoe instead, which will be silent, then move on to internalising the rhythm, which is of course what we all should be doing in the first place. It drives me mad when I hear it in bands I conduct, especially as it's usually the people who can't keep time that do it the loudest.

To get used to the idea of moving your toe rather than your whole foot, practice whenever you hear music on the telly or wherever - it's invisible to anyone else so you won't upset anybody. When you've done this, move on to visualising (auralising?) the beat in your head. I found the second step easier than the first.
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Steve Hill » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:44 pm

Play in socks on a thick sheepskin rug?

Put foam pads under the mic stand's feet. Use a suspension shockmount on the mic itself. Engage a high pass filter on the mic and/or the desk at about 80Hz.

Or discuss bondage solutions with your partner.
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby DAGGILARR » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:54 pm

Steve Hill wrote:

Or discuss bondage solutions with your partner.
I followed this advice and my partner came up with an ingenious solution, she placed drawing pins through my rug and suggested I play barefoot
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Axonaut » Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:00 pm

Put something inside your shoe, under the sole of the offending foot. Like a small stone, for example.

It can vary from a subtle reminder, to a severe punishment, depending on the size and sharpness of the object.

If that doesn't work, then try the drawing pin...
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Mowens800 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:02 pm

Mic up your foot and use it as part of the recording.
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Blue Lizard » Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:30 pm

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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Guest » Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:52 pm

Sit on the floor.
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Jack Ruston » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:39 pm

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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby DAGGILARR » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:55 pm

Yup beginning to regret this
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby FreQnic » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:12 pm

Stick your foot in a sound proof box filled with jelly! OK maybe not the jelly, that's just my personal choice.



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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Studio Support Gnome » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:14 pm

1 nail, 1 hammer, job done.
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Folderol » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:35 pm

Now you lot have solved that one, how do you stop a singer jigging around in front of the mic?
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby chris... » Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:34 pm

Learn to stomp in time, so the sound will later be obscured by your poundingi drum track ?
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Jack Ruston » Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:22 pm

tacitus wrote:Hearing yourself doing it is probably the best incentive to stop doing it. You need physically to practice not tapping your foot - try moving your toe inside your shoe instead, which will be silent, then move on to internalising the rhythm, which is of course what we all should be doing in the first place. It drives me mad when I hear it in bands I conduct, especially as it's usually the people who can't keep time that do it the loudest.

To get used to the idea of moving your toe rather than your whole foot, practice whenever you hear music on the telly or wherever - it's invisible to anyone else so you won't upset anybody. When you've done this, move on to visualising (auralising?) the beat in your head. I found the second step easier than the first.

This was a really decent bit of advice btw...before the rest of us started making 'helpful' comments
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby ROLO46 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:47 pm

Mowens800 wrote:Mic up your foot and use it as part of the recording.

Some of my favourite Chess recordings mike up feet.
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby FreQnic » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:29 pm

The technical term for advanced foot tapping is podorythmy which is very popular in French reels.

If you keep at it you could be as good as this... Reel et podorythmie
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Mike Stranks » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:43 am

Presuming you're sitting to play - have you tried a footrest? Putting some more tension in your leg will make it more difficult to 'tap'

... or is it the other leg??!! Maybe a foot rest there would help!

(You won't believe this, but as I type "Foot-Tapper" is playing on the radio!)
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby tacitus » Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:12 am

Well, even though I gave the 'decent bit of advice', the other posts have been a lot more fun.

As for the problem of singers jigging around in front of the mic, they need my new device, launching next April 1st, that only shocks you when you let go of it.

Somebody will now tell me you can do that, anyway.
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby DAGGILARR » Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:45 am

I used to have a great chair that was high and had a kind or rail round the base to rest your feet on. bit like a bar stool (spent toooo long on they) it was a bit hard though

The fun is great in this thread and there are some good bits of advice too, and I will try some of these out

I wonder what is the ideal guitar playing seat
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Exalted Wombat » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:00 am

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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby DAGGILARR » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:18 am

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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Exalted Wombat » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:38 am

Now, if each leg had different impedance to ground, a differential current could flow up one leg, down the other, causing the b*****ks to explode....excuse me, I must go and lie down for a bit...over-excitement, you know...
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby FreQnic » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:36 pm

I'm feeling a bit guilty for not giving a sensible solution to your problem, so here it is.

Use a thick, plush cushion or pillow under your foot.


I feel so much better now.
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby inderface » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:37 pm

Some alternatives........

Keep your toe on the floor but raise your leg up and down to the rythm.
Also some head banging as an alternative to leg tapping to the groove..
Dance your body to the beat instead....
Try putting a tambourine or cowbell 4/4 on the beat in the track as a guide.....Then take it out once you have recorded the guitar.....
Or leave a bit in according to the track...............
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby Exalted Wombat » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:49 pm

inderface wrote:Some alternatives........

Keep your toe on the floor but raise your leg up and down to the rythm.
Also some head banging as an alternative to leg tapping to the groove..
Dance your body to the beat instead....
Try putting a tambourine or cowbell 4/4 on the beat in the track as a guide.....Then take it out once you have recorded the guitar.....
Or leave a bit in according to the track...............

Or (quite seriously) strap the tambourine to your leg. You'll soon learn to keep it still. And this is really a problem that should be simply cured at source.
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby ConcertinaChap » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:54 pm

You could always make a feature of it, like Spiers & Boden who actually mic up Jon Boden's foot.

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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby zenguitar » Sun May 01, 2011 1:03 am

DAGGILARR wrote:...I wonder what is the ideal guitar playing seat

A bar stool at the bar.

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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby BigElectricCat » Sun May 01, 2011 3:09 am

tacitus wrote: try moving your toe inside your shoe instead, which will be silent, then move on to internalising the rhythm, which is of course what we all should be doing in the first place. It drives me mad when I hear it in bands I conduct, especially as it's usually the people who can't keep time that do it the loudest.

I have to disagree that it is somehow bad form to keep time by tapping your foot. It's common practice amongst musicians of all genres.
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Re: How to stop foot stomping while recording

Postby steve355 » Sun May 01, 2011 8:33 am

It will be very low frequency, and will be mostly filtered out by eq if you are sitting the guitar in a mix. even if not, if you use a rug or something so only low frequencies are generated, it becomes "rumble" that can be filtered out without affecting the guitar recording.

I have suffered from this, but worse, just general noises that come from moving the hands on the guitar, or clothes rubbing against the guitar, or breathing noises etc. Generate much higher frequency noise that is more difficult to deal with.

Bruce Swedien recorded MJ's feet and added to the mix to deal with this problem, so that can't be bad advice.
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