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Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:27 pm

Hi,

The Gemini III mic is advertised as having 3 polar positions, omni, cardioid and fig-8 as usual, but as it passed briefly through my possession I noticed that it has a 9-way switch on the PSU, presumably allowing intermediate settings between the 3 main patterns.

Can someone tell me when you might use the intermediate settings?

TIA,

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Re: Multiple polar patterns

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:30 pm

When you want something in between omni and cardioid or between cardioid and fig-8.

Sub-cardioids and Hypercardioids both have their uses too!

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Re: Multiple polar patterns

Postby The Korff » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:40 pm

ConcertinaChap wrote:Can someone tell me when you might use the intermediate settings?

When you can't quite make your mind up?
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Re: Multiple polar patterns

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:13 pm

Um, yes, I was just wondering what those uses might be ...

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Re: Multiple polar patterns

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:20 pm

Fundamentally, it's about balancing the room ambience and off axis spill with the wanted direct sound for single mic applications, and stereo imaging and width in stereo array applications.

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Re: Multiple polar patterns

Postby The Korff » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:21 pm

If, say, the omni pattern sounded OK-ish, but was picking up a bit too much ambience, while the cardioid sounded kind of alright, but wasn't quite picking up enough ambience, then you might find that the subcardioid pattern was best.

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Re: Multiple polar patterns

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:53 pm

Thanks both. When I get the replacement I'll have an experiment.

Cheers,

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Re: Multiple polar patterns

Postby mjfe2 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:17 pm

Lol, I have to post this story here. I was talking to my friend next door who uses some Chinese multi-pattern LDC for all his home recording and I asked him about how he'd found the different polar patterns. He looked blank and asked what I meant, so I showed him the knob on the PSU that pointed to different patterns and he said, oh yeah I just whack it up to full, you know from 0 to 8.
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Re: Multiple polar patterns

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:31 pm



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Re: Multiple polar patterns

Postby ConcertinaChap » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:50 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:


+1

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PS It's very reassuring to be able to understand the point of that story.
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Re: Multiple polar patterns

Postby Smellthevalve » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:27 am

I feel safe with my shotgun handy, haven't got rid of the rodentss though
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Re: Multiple polar patterns

Postby ConcertinaChap » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:38 am

Que?
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Re: Multiple polar patterns

Postby Smellthevalve » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:58 pm

Chef put Basil in the ratatouille . .

sadly I sold my nice valve mic so cant help you (exits)
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