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Postby Randy Nasworthy » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:07 pm

Hey everyone this is my first post here and I have a quick question. I was wondering if you all could help me.

I did an extremely quick mix just to see what it would sound like. And I realized the bass at this one part from the guitars overpowers the whole song and everything else fades behind it.
http://soundcloud.com/randy-nasworthy/mixed-version-rough-mix

There's the link, if you could give it a listen. Its at the very beginning. You can see it where the transients swell.

My question is this: Is anything I can do about this or will I just have to rerecord it? :?

Any other tips or advice on mixing or mastering would be appreciated also!
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Re: Mix Help!

Postby Phil O » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:43 pm

Things to try :

1. Level automation - ride the fader or draw in a volume dip.
2. Multi-band compression might help tame the particular frequency area whilst leaving the remainder unchanged.
3. EQ notch - sweep the F to identify the culprit and then notch out using a narrow Q.
4. A plain old limiter set to catch the peak might work.

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Re: Mix Help!

Postby narcoman » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:46 pm

How many tracks(channels)?

You could put high pass filters on the worst offenders.

Take the mix buss compressor off until you have solved the issues as well.
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Re: Mix Help!

Postby Randy Nasworthy » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:41 pm

Phil O wrote:Things to try :

1. Level automation - ride the fader or draw in a volume dip.
2. Multi-band compression might help tame the particular frequency area whilst leaving the remainder unchanged.
3. EQ notch - sweep the F to identify the culprit and then notch out using a narrow Q.
4. A plain old limiter set to catch the peak might work.

P

what do you mean by "sweep the F"

And I have a limiter on it so its not from peaking. I have tried few things but nothing seems to work without changing the sound completely or lowering the volume. I think I may have to rerecord it using less gain and bass from the amp. :frown:

Do you think this would work?
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Re: Mix Help!

Postby Randy Nasworthy » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:48 pm

narcoman wrote:How many tracks(channels)?

You could put high pass filters on the worst offenders.

Take the mix buss compressor off until you have solved the issues as well.


I believe its 3 tracks for the lead and 4 for the rhythm.

I will try the high pass idea. I tried it originally on all the guitar tracks together. I didn't like the results. But will try them individually and see if that helps.

And what is the mix bus. I've looked for explanations online and haven't found any good ones. I'm using ableton live so if you know how to explain it in terms of that it would help.
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Re: Mix Help!

Postby A. AuCr » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:41 pm

Heavy!

I think I'd reach for level automation first, and just draw in a fade on the guitar track that is opposite to that big swell of bass.

Another option would be multiband compression on that track to control only the low end of the guitar while letting everything else pass unmolested.

On your followup question: If you're using the routings that Live has when it opens, then your "mix bus" is the master channel.
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Re: Mix Help!

Postby Tom Cullen » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:17 pm

Randall Nasworthy wrote:
Phil O wrote:Things to try :

1. Level automation - ride the fader or draw in a volume dip.
2. Multi-band compression might help tame the particular frequency area whilst leaving the remainder unchanged.
3. EQ notch - sweep the F to identify the culprit and then notch out using a narrow Q.
4. A plain old limiter set to catch the peak might work.

P

what do you mean by "sweep the F"

And I have a limiter on it so its not from peaking. I have tried few things but nothing seems to work without changing the sound completely or lowering the volume. I think I may have to rerecord it using less gain and bass from the amp. :frown:

Do you think this would work?

Not that Im Phil but, the "F" stands for 'Frequency'
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Re: Mix Help!

Postby sdRissdR » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:50 pm

Hey !

Did you check for phase problems ? I hear something strange like comb-filtering.
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Re: Mix Help!

Postby chew_rocket » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:57 pm

the guitar your referring to is too loud. i think you could just turn it down a bit in that section... dont loose the beef!
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Re: Mix Help!

Postby chew_rocket » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:58 pm

cool tune by the way.
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