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[Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby StephHHF » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:14 pm

Hello,

I'm doing some home recording since a few years, mainly to make preprod before going to real studios. For now, I have a Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 and a couple of Behringer B2-Pro.

I'm now working on a record that I'd like to make at home, and for that, I'd like to purchase a better mic than the B2-Pro's that I have.

Is there any mic that:
- would be good for both acoustic guitar (steel, not classical) and male voice
- would be not too expensive (max 500$)

Thank you,
Stéphane.
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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby Exalted Wombat » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:21 pm

I understand SE Electronics offer a good range...
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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby Wease » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:29 pm

Exhaulted......that post is one of the funniest I've seen.

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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby ConcertinaChap » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:23 pm

AT4033 is a nice general purpose mic and well within your price range. As compared with sE it's a bit light on naked ladies.

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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby Richard Graham » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:17 pm

Wease wrote:Exhaulted......that post is one of the funniest I've seen.

I've spat me tea all over me ipad......

I don't get it?! I hate not getting jokes.
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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby Bob Bickerton » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:32 pm

Are you planning on recording vocals and guitar at the same time?

Will there be other instruments in the final arrangement?

Answers to these questions will determine the best advice.

If the answer is yes to both, I'd recommend a three mic set up, maybe a pair of Rode M5s on the guitar and then either a Sennheiser MK4 or Audio Technica AT2050 on vocals, which could be achieved within budget. (The AT2050 provides multi pattern which can be very useful in figure of eight mode for recording vocals when guitar is played at the same time). An alternative to a vocal condenser would be a nice dynamic like the Shure SM7B, or maybe even a Beyerdynamic M201.

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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby Bob Bickerton » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:55 pm

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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby G-Doubleyou » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:58 pm

Also checkout the Guide.
http://tweakheadz.com/posts/the-guide/

Also be aware that a better mike won't help, if the space you record in SUCKS!

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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby The Bunk » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:29 pm

Not wishing to hijack this post but I've been lent a Rode NT1000 which I love. I often record acoustic guitar with a female vocalist and it's worked beautifully with her. And that's around my budget in looking for a new one; good one to go for or are there other recommendations at that price?? The room's reasonably well treated, and I'm using a Focusrite 2i2 (although I do also have a Focusrite Platinum Trakmaster channel strip).
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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby The Elf » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:29 pm

Bob Bickerton wrote:I'd recommend a three mic set up

+1

A mono voice *and* mono guitar are going to sound very thin and lonely between stereo speakers.
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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby Bob Bickerton » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:07 pm

The Bunk wrote:Not wishing to hijack this post but I've been lent a Rode NT1000 which I love. I often record acoustic guitar with a female vocalist and it's worked beautifully with her. And that's around my budget in looking for a new one; good one to go for or are there other recommendations at that price?? The room's reasonably well treated, and I'm using a Focusrite 2i2 (although I do also have a Focusrite Platinum Trakmaster channel strip).

Bearing in mind it's also to do with matching the mic to the voice, I would pick the Sennheiser MK4 over an NT1000 and have owned both. The MK4 still has an extended top end (which often suits female vocals), but isn't as hard sounding as the NT1000, though we're talking subtle differences. Another alternative would be a nice dynamic.

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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby shufflebeat » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:44 pm

Richard Graham wrote:I don't get it?! I hate not getting jokes.


The chaps are referring to a discussion elsewhere regarding SOS' new page 3 - page 27.

You may like to check the mag feedback forum but to be honest it's all gone a bit unedifying.
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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby Kgweiro » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:08 pm

AKG c319

I used this on acoustic steel and got a perfect sound, especially for the price !
Use it directly pointed at the neck if the guitar, around 4" away from the hole.
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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby Exalted Wombat » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:33 am

StephHHF wrote:I'm doing some home recording since a few years, mainly to make preprod before going to real studios. For now, I have a Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 and a couple of Behringer B2-Pro.

Juming back to the beginning...

I've just looked up the SoS review of the Behringers, and they don't seem too bad (though when WILL manufacturers wake up to the fact that calling something "pro" immediately defines that it isn't!)

May we hear some of your recordings of the singer/guitarist using these mics? As always, once you've got adequate equipment, It Isn't Really About The Gear :-)
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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby StephHHF » Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:39 am

Thank your for your answers!

It's not to record guitar and voice at the same time. And yes, unfortunately, the space I record in sucks

Maybe I'll keep the behringers, anyway it's just to do "preprod" material. Indeed, even with a better mic, the room in which I record is not a good room, so maybe I'll keep the money...

Again, thanks to all.
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Re: [Home Studio] Which mic to record acoustic guitar and voice?

Postby Exalted Wombat » Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:43 am

StephHHF wrote:It's not to record guitar and voice at the same time. And yes, unfortunately, the space I record in sucks

Clothes-horses, duvets... It's not hard to build a recording "tent" big enough for a guitar-vocalist.

If the end result is to be guitar+vocal, at least TRY recording it that way. Capturing a performance is often preferable to constructing one.
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