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Postby ROLO46 » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:55 am

Hi chums
have a choice of used passives at this moment
PMC TB2 +
Yamaha ns1000m
AE 22 pro
What do we think?
The Yams are ancient but still linger in my memory.
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Re: Passive monitors

Postby ROLO46 » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:41 am

No advice on passive monitors
Im amazed.
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Re: Passive monitors

Postby James Perrett » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:25 am

Probably aren't many people who have listened to that particular combination. They're also very different from each other as the NS1000's are much bigger than the others so they wouldn't be used in the same place as you would use the AE22's. As I remember it, the NS1000's were aimed at the same market at Spendor BC1's (or was it BC3's) and were supposed to be much more neutral than other Japanese speakers at the time. The only pair I ever heard were used as background music speakers in Andertons music shop.

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Re: Passive monitors

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:09 am

Sorry Roger -- missed this the first time out...

ROLO46 wrote:have a choice of used passives at this moment
PMC TB2 +
Yamaha ns1000m
AE 22 pro

The Yamaha's had a great reputation as being a very fine speaker in its day. But that was a long time ago now and things have moved on a little, so it might not retain quite the same standing by comparison. It's also significantly bigger than the others you list and would need a bigger room to really work properly. More to the point, the drivers will be old and tired and replacements are probably difficult to source, if not impossible.

The TB2+ is more modern, parts are still available, and it is a great speaker. Lots of forum members use them and rate them highly. They need a decent powerful amp if they are to give of their best.

The AE22 is also modern and performs extremely well, with all the temporal advantags of a sealed cabinet.

I've reviewed and would be quite happy to use either the AE22 or the TB2 as a working monitor.... but I happen to have the TB2s here and get along with them just fine.

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Re: Passive monitors

Postby Richie Royale » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:51 am

Not passive, but I'm happy with my AE22 actives.

I can't make any comparisons though, unless you are in the market for some Alesis Point 7s!
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Re: Passive monitors

Postby Zukan » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:08 am

I have the TB2S+ and love them only because they are brutally honest and uncoloured.

I found the AE22s to be good but I would prefer them with a sub but that comes down to what you need them for, where you are positioned and so on.
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Re: Passive monitors

Postby ROLO46 » Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:56 pm

Thats more like it chaps

I have an AVI 300wpc amp otherwise I would go active

Also have a 18" AVI Volt sub and amp

Might include a AVI Pro 9 pair if I can source some

But its likely to be the PMC TB2 +.

The Yammys were topdog but replacement berylium tweeters cost £400.....

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Re: Passive monitors

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:26 pm

Berylium is nasty stuff. Don't want to be near that if you're likely to be breaking tweeters!

The AVI speakers are all pretty good. I've yet to hear one I don't like.

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Re: Passive monitors

Postby Martin Walker » Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:33 am

Yep - I’m still very pleased with the pair of AVI Biggatron’s I use in the sitting room with my hi-fi

Another sealed design with an unhyped bass end.


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Re: Passive monitors

Postby ROLO46 » Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:06 pm

Not exactly passive but any one tried the big Quad panels recently
They might cut it with a sub?
Build quality now excellent they say.
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Re: Passive monitors

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:44 am

Totally different beast.

Huge, bipolar radiation field, and integration with a sub will be even more difficult than with a conventional speaker.

Lovely things, and with fabulous resolution, but a totally different ball park fromthe other candidates you mentioned.

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Re: Passive monitors

Postby ROLO46 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:11 pm

Hughie
Quad are offering refurbished Q63's with latest improved components @ £1300 with 2 yr warranty.
What do you think of that?
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Re: Passive monitors

Postby ROLO46 » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:09 am

Went for the Quad option
Huge soundfield
amazing coherent midband
will my feeble recordings do them justice?
shows up lots of my cds as total rubbish.......
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