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Postby ken long » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:35 pm

Still not tempted.

That is all.
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Re: New iPad

Postby John Willett » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:04 pm

Oooh - I am - I will get one.
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Re: New iPad

Postby ken long » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:34 pm

to remote control that Nagra VI, no doubt.
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Re: New iPad

Postby ConcertinaChap » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:41 pm

If I get anything it'll be a Raspberry Pi. That thing's got geek chic like nothing I've seen these 20 years gone. I hear it calling me ...

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Re: New iPad

Postby The Elf » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:43 pm

I'm with you Ken.

And is it me, or is there so little practical difference between the iPad 2 and 3 that I'm thinking "big deal"?
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Re: New iPad

Postby Richard Graham » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:01 pm

If i didn't already have the 2 I'd be buying the three... Retina display and decent camera are significant upgrades but not enough to tempt me. The iPad rules.
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Re: New iPad

Postby forumuser695516 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:11 pm

The Elf wrote:

And is it me, or is there so little practical difference between the iPad 2 and 3 that I'm thinking "big deal"?

Apart from that much improved screen? Oh, and the much improved camera? And lets not forget the much beefier 4 core CPU.
Sure, not much practical difference at all..
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Re: New iPad

Postby Bossman » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:23 pm

~Paul wrote:And lets not forget the much beefier 4 core CPU....


actually its a dual core CPU, with a quad core GPU built into the same chip.

apple wrote:Dual-core Apple A5X custom-designed, high-performance, low-power system-on-a-chip with quad-core graphics
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Re: New iPad

Postby ken long » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:26 pm

I think this will be a debate between the haves and have nots (ipad owners)!

I'm sure if I owned one, I would also see the benefit.

But, I can't see it bringing me anything other than convenience.

I still enjoy step sequencing...
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Re: New iPad

Postby Dave B » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:44 pm

Still only a dual core cpu ... according to the tech specs. Quad core gpu ...

Nice .. but I'm not sad I bought a 2 and it's fine for my needs. ho hum..
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Re: New iPad

Postby Guest » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:55 pm

I can't see what was wrong with the Etch-A-Sketch.
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Re: New iPad

Postby Bob Bickerton » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:44 am

ken long wrote:I think this will be a debate between the haves and have nots (ipad owners)!


Yes, I was skeptical to begin with and got one in the end to drive my Presonus digital desk (read justifiable excuse here) but I have to say its now what I use for most browsing, emails, (basic) room analysis, diary, live sound playback, reminders, contacts, reading Sound On Sound, in other words it's fully integrated into my work flow.

When I tour I only take the iPad with me now as I have all my desktop files synced over SugarSync.

Not much point in upgrading from iPad 2 to 3 except Siri can be a time saver.

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Re: New iPad

Postby forumuser695516 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:49 am

2 core, 4 core, 6 core!? It is supposedly 4 times faster than an iPad 2. So still hugely more oomph.. And speaking of the iPad 2.. You can still buy them, and they start at a mere £330 now. Which seems like a pretty good deal to me, if the added benefits of the iPad 3 don't jam your donut..
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Re: New iPad

Postby Mixedup » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:54 am

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ken long wrote:I think this will be a debate between the haves and have nots (ipad owners)!

Yes, I was skeptical to begin with and got one in the end to drive my Presonus digital desk (read justifiable excuse here) but I have to say its now what I use for most browsing, emails, (basic) room analysis, diary, live sound playback, reminders, contacts, reading Sound On Sound, in other words it's fully integrated into my work flow.

When I tour I only take the iPad with me now as I have all my desktop files synced over SugarSync.

Not much point in upgrading from iPad 2 to 3 except Siri can be a time saver.

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You was robbed My ageing laptop can do all that and a whole lot more.
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Re: New iPad

Postby Dave B » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:34 am

yes, but his iPad is light, easy to carry and hold, pleasant to look at and can go more than a couple of hours without needing a recharge...
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Re: New iPad

Postby feline1 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:35 am

J.A.S wrote:I can't see what was wrong with the Etch-A-Sketch.

lol

What is a 'retina display'? I have seen this term bandied about all over the media, without any explanation whatsoever. This generally means nobody has a clue what it is, but is to embarrassed to ask.

I like to think it's made of real retinas, gouged out of lamb's eyeballs in slaughterhouses.
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Re: New iPad

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:45 am

It's a typically 'hip' Apple marketing term for what is, in reality, nothing more than a high-definition display screen.

The 'retina' screens have a pixel density of 326 pixels per inch -- which is quite a lot -- and that means that at the typical (relatively close) screen viewing distances associated with things like smartphones and tablets, the human eye is unable to perceive individual pixels. The result is that the displayed image appears to be as sharp and 'real' as if you were looking at a real object, rather than a displayed image.

All next generation tablets and smart phones will have the same resolution displays because that's where display technology is heading.

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Re: New iPad

Postby Scramble » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:45 am

Apparently it's not that much faster than the iPad 2 because so much of the extra power goes into handling the display.
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Re: New iPad

Postby ConcertinaChap » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:46 am

feline1 wrote:I like to think it's made of real retinas, gouged out of lamb's eyeballs in slaughterhouses.


The screen that looks right back at you? SFAIK it's a marketing term that doesn't mean anything, that is to say Apple want it to mean unusually high resolution, but there's nothing in the name to suggest it should.

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Re: New iPad

Postby johnny h » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:38 pm

ConcertinaChap wrote:
feline1 wrote:I like to think it's made of real retinas, gouged out of lamb's eyeballs in slaughterhouses.

The screen that looks right back at you? SFAIK it's a marketing term that doesn't mean anything, that is to say Apple want it to mean unusually high resolution, but there's nothing in the name to suggest it should.

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The idea behind the 'retina' display, as Hugh has pointed out, is that it is designed the same resolution as the retina in your eye. The retina cannot make out any greater detail. Its quite an achievement.
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Re: New iPad

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:55 pm

johnny h wrote: The idea behind the 'retina' display, as Hugh has pointed out, is that it is designed the same resolution as the retina in your eye. The retina cannot make out any greater detail.

That's not quite what I said, and isn't actually accurate! The 'retina display' uses pixels that are so small and closely packed that the average human eye can't perceive them as separate dots of light when the screen is held at a typical viewing distance. If you get (much) closer to the screen it is still possible to distinguish individual pixels.

The resolution is not the same as the human eye... the resolution of the human eye is unable to perceive individual pixels when it is used at the intended distance! It's a subtle but important distinction.

It'a all about the 'circles of confusion':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_confusion

The same concept is what defines the optimal size of TV screen for a given viewing distance and TV format. For example, the line structure of a 42 inch standard definition screen viewed from about 12 feet is imperceptible, and replacing it with a 42 inch HD screen at the same distane would produce no visible improvement because the eye is simply unable to perceive any greater detail!

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Re: New iPad

Postby feline1 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:28 pm

I'd just like to make Hugh spit out his lunch by nodding and going "Ah, yes, that's like CDs, isn't it? The sound is split up into 44,100 samples, which are so small that your ear can't hear the joins and so it sounds smooth like vinyl".
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Re: New iPad

Postby feline1 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:32 pm

In any case, a retina display doesn't sound particularly relevant to the main thing I'd want to use an eyepad for: namely, being a touch-screen controller for programming soft-synths and knobs hardware devices.
For that, I just want a BIGGER tablet size (and more touch-sensitivity resolution). Or smaller fingers. (i.e. I'm assuming the touch resolution doesn't mater the retina display resolution? And even if it did, that would be kinda pointless, as your eye would be unable to see the difference in the position of your finger. Or something).
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Re: New iPad

Postby Bob Bickerton » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:06 pm

Horray! My iPad 2 has a retina display!

When I take my glasses off I can't see the pixels either!

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Re: New iPad

Postby Chaconne » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:33 pm

What I really need is a small underpowered computer, preferbaly one without a keyboard or easy way to connect any of the interfaces I have. Hopefully it wont be up to running any of the DAW's I like or burning data onto a DVD. Perhaps though, it could be so slim and good looking that I would overlook its flaws and waste most of my day on it, cooing over its pert 8 track sequencer and pretty display - instead of doing real work.

Is there such a machine?
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Re: New iPad

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:46 pm



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Re: New iPad

Postby Gary M » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:58 pm

Chaconne wrote:What I really need is a small underpowered computer, preferbaly one without a keyboard or easy way to connect any of the interfaces I have. Hopefully it wont be up to running any of the DAW's I like or burning data onto a DVD. Perhaps though, it could be so slim and good looking that I would overlook its flaws and waste most of my day on it, cooing over its pert 8 track sequencer and pretty display - instead of doing real work.

Is there such a machine?

Couldn't disagree more. Sure an iPad isn't going to take over from your power mac or hi spec pc for daw use but it is an unbelievable tool that until you own one you don't realise how many tasks it will take over. I very rarely use my laptop for browsing web, all emails get done on iPad, note taking, calendar appointments, lots of music apps for playing with. I only ever visit the sound on sound forums using the iPad these days. You tube means a complete new thing to what it is on laptop, so does Facebook. Honestly it has its sceptics but until you have one and use it you really do not have a clue how it takes over tasks you originally carried out on a desk top or laptop.

New iPad 3?

Well they couldn't go without updating it, personally I wouldn't up grade from my iPad3 but then I probably could have said he same about the iPad1 to ipad2 update. The price has not been increased and he ipad2 has dropped in price. Seems quite logical and like normal business to me. Do like the dictation function tough, that would be great for emails I would imagine.
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Re: New iPad

Postby vinyl_junkie » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:00 pm

Chaconne wrote:What I really need is a small underpowered computer, preferbaly one without a keyboard or easy way to connect any of the interfaces I have. Hopefully it wont be up to running any of the DAW's I like or burning data onto a DVD. Perhaps though, it could be so slim and good looking that I would overlook its flaws and waste most of my day on it, cooing over its pert 8 track sequencer and pretty display - instead of doing real work.

Is there such a machine?


Couldn't agree more. I find it idiotic when people buy an ipad just for the Animoog app hahahah for that money you can buy a real moog and it's not made by 12yr olds in slave camps let alone probs last longer than what is a pointless electronic device that gets out dated every year and ends up in landfill
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Re: New iPad

Postby Gary M » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:13 pm

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Chaconne wrote:What I really need is a small underpowered computer, preferbaly one without a keyboard or easy way to connect any of the interfaces I have. Hopefully it wont be up to running any of the DAW's I like or burning data onto a DVD. Perhaps though, it could be so slim and good looking that I would overlook its flaws and waste most of my day on it, cooing over its pert 8 track sequencer and pretty display - instead of doing real work.

Is there such a machine?

Couldn't agree more. I find it idiotic when people buy an ipad just for the Animoog app hahahah for that money you can buy a real moog and it's not made by 12yr olds in slave camps let alone probs last longer.

Well lets look at a real world application of one. The ilive mixing desks allow you to control pretty much all parameters of the desk using an iPad. This allows you to go to the middle of the arena or venue you are playing and sort out your sound from the perspective of the listener, you can also carry out your belling out of he venue ect... If the desk goes down the iPad that you have sitting to the side can save the day with mixing (not ideal but a life saver). On stage the performers can use one to adjust their own monitor mix without effecting or even having the controls of any of the other band members or mixers functions. You mention 1 app, the problem with the iPad is there are so many apps it's hard to keep up with them, check out node beat hd that has now just added midi over wifi functionality, new ways have been created for controlling things, check out sound prism. I agree that it would be mental to buy an iPad for one app but no one in the right mind would do this, there are thousands of apps and you would find the space on your iPad soon eaten up with all of them. I didn't need one but when I found the excuse to get myself one I'm so chuffed I got one now. Completely changed my daily work flow, not just an oversized iPhone, believe me.
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Re: New iPad

Postby Scouser » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:40 pm

I had great intentions of using my original ipad 1 in my music set up. I hoped that it would be ideal for controlling some of the plugins etc, as well as i decent control surface. However it doesn't compare to my trusty alphatrack, or control any of my plugins..

Wouldn't dream of upgrading.
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