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Postby EDSPECIAL » Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:14 am

can anyone suggest a reasonably priced sampler or software sampler?

I am working with cubase in cujunction with my Roland Boss BR - 800 multitrack
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Postby BJG145 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:25 am

Kontakt is practically the industry standard - seems to be 50% off at the moment, offer ends Nov 26th.

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/kontakt-5/?page=2529
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Postby tim_obrien » Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:56 pm

Shortcircuit from Vember Audio is FREE and works great.
http://vemberaudio.se/shortcircuit.php
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Postby EDSPECIAL » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:55 am

Free. I like that. Thanks guys.
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Postby EDSPECIAL » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:01 am

ok I've downloaded shortcircuit. How do I open it and use it?
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Postby BJG145 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:16 am

Install to whatever plugins folder Cubase is looking for (probably something like C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VSTPlugins) and Cubase should see it I guess.
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Postby EDSPECIAL » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:44 am

I see I have cakewalk so I have to move it onto my music computer. Thanks.
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Postby EDSPECIAL » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:37 am

ok it recognised cakewalk on my music computer now how do I open as use it?
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Postby The_BPP » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:49 am

Which version of Cakewalk?
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Postby EDSPECIAL » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:18 pm

SONAR 8.5 LE
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Postby EDSPECIAL » Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:47 pm

SONAR 8.5 LE CAKEWALK, the disk came with my multitrack recorder: Roland Boss BR-800.

Does that help?

So do I need to get cakewalk to import the shortcut download?
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Postby BJG145 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:10 pm

Whatever DAW you're using will have an option for choosing the VST plugins folder. You need to install the sampler into that folder. For Sonar it's usually:

C:\program files\cakewalk\vstplugins

I think Cubase always scans the plugins folder for new entries on startup, though in Sonar this is optional, so you might need to do it manually depending how it's configured.

See here if you get stuck.

http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007012959
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Postby EDSPECIAL » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:19 pm

Thank you BJG145 I'll have a go at that
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Postby EDSPECIAL » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:13 am

Hi, I've got shortcircuit and cakewalk up on the screen now, are there instrutions for using it? How do you get samples into it and use the midi keyboard to play them?
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Postby EDSPECIAL » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:16 am

Are these the right instructions? The display looks different to the picture in the document. There's no mention of multi or group in the program:

"First of all you need to understand multi, zone, and group." These terms are not in the shortcircuit program?
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Postby BJG145 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:50 am

Not obvious is it...seem to be lots of Google results for people

(a) recommending it
(b) failing to find any instructions for it

I think the available tutorials (more on YouTube) are geared towards V1 - give that a try. Some users seem to prefer it. Can't expect miracles from freeware I'm afraid.
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Postby BJG145 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:01 pm

Alternatively, see...

http://www.tx16wx.com/home

...which was just recommended in the "Free software" thread and looks a lot nicer...
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Postby Pete Kaine » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:32 pm

BJG145 wrote:ome users seem to prefer it. Can't expect miracles from freeware I'm afraid.

I've installed it twice in the past. Both times opened it, poked about, got annoyed and deleted it again.

I can't offer anything more than that really on the cheap. I use Kontakt & Camel Alchemy for sample abuse these days, neither of free, but I get on with them far better than anything else I've used software wise and I've been through all the free/cheap options.

If I could code for toffee I'd build myself a emulation of my old Yamaha 5000. But I can't. So meh.
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Postby tim_obrien » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:14 pm

EDSPECIAL wrote:ok I've downloaded shortcircuit. How do I open it and use it?

Go to YouTube and search for Shortcircuit. That's how I learned to use it.

It's a simple drag-and-drop.
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Postby EDSPECIAL » Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:14 am

No luck, ok forget software ones, how about reasonably priced hardware samplers?
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Postby BJG145 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:24 am

If you don't get on with the free ones (and I don't blame you, that's why I suggested Kontakt), I should check out demos of budget soft samplers before going the hardware route. Unless you're really pining for the sound and feel of vintage hardware you'll get more bang for your buck, and less hassle.

http://www.112db.com/download
http://www.musicradar.com/gear/tech/computers-software/sampl...
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Postby ken long » Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:40 am

EDSPECIAL wrote:No luck, ok forget software ones, how about reasonably priced hardware samplers?

Ah.... I was waiting for this... hardware flavour and workflow is the way...
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Re: samplers

Postby Tomás Mulcahy » Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:02 pm

BJG145 wrote:Alternatively, see...

http://www.tx16wx.com/home

...which was just recommended in the "Free software" thread and looks a lot nicer...

That looks great. It does something no other soft sampler does- detects the sample's pitch and maps it for you. This was a super feature on the Typhoon OS.

Kontakt is the best soft sampler. Avid Structure is also pretty nifty though not as comprehensive.

I would avoid hardware. As BG415 said, it's a lot of hassle (faffing around with disks, SCSI, tiny screen) for a minor effect on sound quality, an effect that you can easily recreate with plugins. Kontakt has a built in Akai MPC and Emu SP1200 emulation, both of which get you all of the aliasing and transposing artefacts that you'll remember from the past. Sounds quite like a TX16W actually!
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Postby hollowsun » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:11 pm

Tomás Mulcahy wrote:Kontakt is the best soft sampler.
Agreed.

With its comprehensive semi-modular architecture, gob loads of filters and modulators, insert FX, send effects, etc., it offers astonishing sample mangling facilities.

But the scripting takes it into a different league.

Furthermore, there is just SO much library out there for it from free to serious pro prices and everything in between - undoubtedly the biggest library support of any sampler at the moment. Even the GBs of library it ships with is very good and more than enough to get you well and truly started.

But Kontakt also reads most of the popular hardware and software sampler formats as well further expanding what's on offer.

It's a shame the OP missed the recent sale - I just picked up K5 for $150 which, IMO, is a bargain...

But then, my background is paying £3,000+ for a lump of hardware that shipped with four floppies ... and that's before buying drives, messing with SCSI voodoo, installing RAM (at an eye watering few £hundred for each stick), etc.. Easy not to have much change out of £5,000!!

Get Kontakt and get it over and done with!

IMO, of course.
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Re: samplers

Postby Chevytraveller » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:48 pm

hollowsun wrote:

But then, my background is paying £3,000+ for a lump of hardware that shipped with four floppies ... and that's before buying drives, messing with SCSI voodoo, installing RAM (at an eye watering few £hundred for each stick), etc.. Easy not to have much change out of £5,000!!

Aaaaah.. those were the days

..pass me another terminator
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Re: samplers

Postby Tomás Mulcahy » Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:19 pm

Chevytraveller wrote:
Aaaaah.. those were the days

..pass me another terminator
LOL! I used to be a SCSI witch doctor.
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