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My problem/dilemma...

Postby Sibelius19 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:15 pm

I have a degree in psychology,
I love music.
I'm a customer care executive for a compnay.
I love to write music.
I think about music all the time.
I love to create sounds.

What do I do?
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Soundseed » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:29 pm

Sibelius19 wrote:I have a degree in psychology,
I love music.
I'm a customer care executive for a compnay.
I love to write music.
I think about music all the time.
I love to create sounds.

What do I do?

Write a musical?
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Phil O » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:05 pm

I think you know the answer you'll get from most here is - keep the day job and do music as a sideline / hobby.
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Soundseed » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:19 pm

Phil O wrote:I think you know the answer you'll get from most here is - keep the day job and do music as a sideline / hobby.

Sensible advice.

I don't know why, but with the phrasing of the OP I just see this as being a cross between The Office and Joseph and his Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat.
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Scramble » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:46 pm

>What do I do?

I give up. What's the answer? You strangle animals?
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Mike Stranks » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:29 pm


O/P: have a careful read through THIS thread from this very forum.

The reason that this is a sticky is that this question comes up very many times in slightly different forms and, as has already been said, the advice is always the same.

And just to emphasise the point... much of what's in that thread is from people 'in the biz'(not me!) who really do know what they're talking about. :)
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby OneWorld » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:35 pm

Sibelius19 wrote:I have a degree in psychology

Be more remarkable had you written - "I do NOT have a psychology degree - everyone and his dog has one of those lol

Sibelius19 wrote:
I'm a customer care executive for a 'compnay'.

Oops! the devil is in the detail as they say, certainly applies to music
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Sibelius19 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:00 pm

yeah, psychology is quite broad and bland I might add. I am coming to believe more and more what William James said when he got out of psychology --"Psychology is the elaboration of the obvious.". Ok, I know there are some exciting new discoveries they're probably making in experimental psychology. That's besides the point.
So, I've played music since I can remember and I have always been talented with composing music on the spot as well as learning to play anything I hear. i do lack site reading ability, and only know elementary music theory. I have written hundreds of pieces (though not notated). Oh, there was a day when I messed around with Finale and would write a lot of short little pieces by notatin. But now that I've discovered VST, SFZ, Kontakt 5, Reason, and so on and so on, I have found it less motivating to painstakingly notate music on a page, or less painstakingly on Finale, Sibelius or other notation software. So now I've been turning to the idea of maybe becoming a sound designer in some capacity and composing music as well. I love it! it's a passion of mine. If I'm not spending time with my wife I'm recordind sound, modifying sound and just plain having fun with sound!
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby johnny h » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:02 pm

Sibelius19 wrote:I have a degree in psychology,
I love music.
I'm a customer care executive for a compnay.
I love to write music.
I think about music all the time.
I love to create sounds.

What do I do?

Make music and if you're good enough you can quit your job.
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Scramble » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:00 pm

> If I'm not spending time with my wife I'm recordind sound, modifying sound and just plain having fun with sound!

I don't understand. When do you have time to strangle animals with all this going on?
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby blue manga » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:59 pm

Scramble wrote:>What do I do?

I give up. What's the answer? You strangle animals?


Bite the heads of the rats..
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Sibelius19 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:31 pm

I don't understand the animal obsession, but I now that you mention it, I used to work as a Vet Tech :ooo: but no strangling involved.
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby The Red Bladder » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:38 pm

As psychologists are devoted and deluded followers of Onan, you should fit right in, in the music scene!
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby shufflebeat » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:02 am

I can't claim much of an ejercation but I play with some dead clever people with proper jobs in a variety of areas. The happiest and most balanced seem to be those who have the security of a regular income which does focus the mind when it comes to time management but in return it gives them the confidence to pick and choose their gigs in a way that others sometimes struggle and lose their way.
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Exalted Wombat » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:04 am

Sibelius19 wrote:I have a degree in psychology,
I love music.
I'm a customer care executive for a compnay.
I love to write music.
I think about music all the time.
I love to create sounds.

What do I do?

Continue with your music-making hobby. Accept any money-making opportunities connected with music. When it looks like there are enough of them to support you, go with it!
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Skerrick » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:40 am

Sibelius19 wrote:I have a degree in psychology,
I love music.
I'm a customer care executive for a compnay.
I love to write music.
I think about music all the time.
I love to create sounds.

What do I do?

similar situation over here, i work in sales, i listen to/love music every second im awake haha!
i think about it all the time, all i can do is keep slaving away and producing in my spare time till i hit a standard where i can generate revenue from my work...
its a tough road hahaha! i can see myself being an unsuccessful musician for the rest of my life haha! it wont stop me though, hopefully ill stumble upon a great opportunity, i can only wish the same for you.
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby trevorscott33 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:46 am

Phil O wrote:I think you know the answer you'll get from most here is - keep the day job and do music as a sideline / hobby.
i agree, in my life so far when something i do for fun becomes 'work' then the fun usually stops. writing tunes when you can take as long as you like, stop and put it aside and go back to it as and when the muse takes you is fun, especially when the day job pays the bills!
on the other hand, when the tune doesn't feel right, needs that little bit extra that you can't put your finger on and the deadline is approaching fast, then that is when the fun would stop. maybe that is just me though :smirk:. they say that some people work better under pressure :crazy:
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby The Elf » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:14 am

I only went full time in audio when I was earning sufficient income from it to make it a pleasure rather than a worry. Doing something you love is all well and good, but when the bailiffs are at the door and you're wondering where the next meal is coming from it's hard to enjoy being creative.
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby GlynB » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:31 pm

Sibelius19 wrote:I have a degree in psychology,
I love music.
I'm a customer care executive for a compnay.
I love to write music.
I think about music all the time.
I love to create sounds.

What do I do?

You call on your extensive network of contacts working in the music business, gain commissions, and climb onboard, then give up the day job.

You do have an extensive network of contacts in place right?
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Exalted Wombat » Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:14 pm

Sibelius19 wrote:
So, I've played music since I can remember and I have always been talented with composing music on the spot as well as learning to play anything I hear. i do lack site reading ability, and only know elementary music theory. I have written hundreds of pieces (though not notated). Oh, there was a day when I messed around with Finale and would write a lot of short little pieces by notatin. But now that I've discovered VST, SFZ, Kontakt 5, Reason, and so on and so on, I have found it less motivating to painstakingly notate music on a page, or less painstakingly on Finale, Sibelius or other notation software. So now I've been turning to the idea of maybe becoming a sound designer in some capacity and composing music as well. I love it! it's a passion of mine. If I'm not spending time with my wife I'm recordind sound, modifying sound and just plain having fun with sound!

OK, so you're not aiming to be a USEFUL musician, otherwise you'd have picked up the required skills by now. You like playing with your computer. How do you see this paying the rent?
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You don't have to write songs. The world doesn't want you to write songs. It would probably prefer it if you didn't. So write songs if you want to. Otherwise, dont. Go fishing instead.


Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Sibelius19 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:55 am

I appreciate everyone's input. I am certain that I want to keep writing and playing, and ofcourse if I find opportunities to put my talents to use, then I will go for it. For now, I can't afford to drop everything and just do music. I feel like it's really more who you know than what you know in the music industry. But building a portfolio and getting it out there is probably a good way to make connections.
What does it mean to be 'useful' or 'useless'? And as far as being a musician, I am just fine (in my opinion) with that. I have played guitar for 20 years, piano for 15 and drums and bass for 10. I just can't read music very quickly. Just as an example, I figured out Lizst' Consolation #3 without looking at any music notation. And I did actually notate Movement 2 of Bach's Italian Concerto in F Major because of a bet from a friend that I couldn't do it. So, I do have some skills, however meager. The only reason I have not been more prolific in this respect is due to a lack of time. This has nothing to do with my musicianship, or really even my musical knowledge.
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby narcoman » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:12 am

It's who you know, what you know, when you know and everything else.

For anyone, really, it becomes obvious if and when you can make the jump into music full time.
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Exalted Wombat » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:19 pm

Sibelius19 wrote:
What does it mean to be 'useful' or 'useless'?

I meant "useful" in an employment sense. Is your skill-set one that people want to pay for? How many calls a week do you get for paid work?
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You don't have to write songs. The world doesn't want you to write songs. It would probably prefer it if you didn't. So write songs if you want to. Otherwise, dont. Go fishing instead.


Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Sibelius19 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:12 pm

As of now I have not been active in persuing a music career. I guess I can answer that question when I start trying to find gigs lol
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Re: My problem/dilemma...

Postby Exalted Wombat » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:31 pm

Sibelius19 wrote:As of now I have not been active in persuing a music career. I guess I can answer that question when I start trying to find gigs lol

Great! Keep your day job, see what gigs you can find. You'll soon discover if it adds up to a living.

You'll forgive me for being dubious. The idea of someone, good enough to consider going pro, not being highly in demand on the semi-pro scene already just doesn't ring true. But please prove me wrong! Best of luck.
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You don't have to write songs. The world doesn't want you to write songs. It would probably prefer it if you didn't. So write songs if you want to. Otherwise, dont. Go fishing instead.


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