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Mountain Lion is out

Postby Bossman » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:48 am

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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby johnny h » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:58 am

It is.

But before upgrading, its prudent to wait until the nerds on Gearslutz who have all the gear but never make any music to test it out first.
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby desmond » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:52 am

Or just make a full clone of your system, and/or install it to a test drive/partition so you can play without affecting your production machines until you *know* it's not going to cause compatibility issues.

There have been USB/audio interface issues with some hardware, apparently...
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby johnny h » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:00 am

desmond wrote:Or just make a full clone of your system, and/or install it to a test drive/partition so you can play without affecting your production machines until you *know* it's not going to cause compatibility issues.

There have been USB/audio interface issues with some hardware, apparently...

If you've got a spare afternoon and *really* nothing better to do.
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby desmond » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:15 pm

johnny h wrote:If you've got a spare afternoon and *really* nothing better to do.


It would take a *lot* longer if you installed it over your existing system without backups, realised something critical to your workflow didn't work, and had to try and get back to your old working system again...

Personally, there's little so far in ML that's an incentive to me to upgrade. Perhaps if they fixed the *appalling* dual-monitor full screen issues in Lion that might be enough of a reason...
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby johnny h » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:37 pm

desmond wrote:
johnny h wrote:If you've got a spare afternoon and *really* nothing better to do.

It would take a *lot* longer if you installed it over your existing system without backups, realised something critical to your workflow didn't work, and had to try and get back to your old working system again...

Better to just wait it out. I mean, exactly what killer features are missing from your current operating system?
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby desmond » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:01 pm

johnny h wrote:Better to just wait it out. I mean, exactly what killer features are missing from your current operating system?

A working implementation of full screen for folks with more than one monitor, for a start...
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby Freuman » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:50 pm

Unfortunately I don't want a phone operating system on my computer.

All the reviews are saying is "Look now you can buy 3 gadgets of different sizes that all do the same thing."

:headbang:

Also an update every year? I usually have to wait a year for Avid to catch up and release something compatible then another few months for it to be suitably bug free!

:madas:

Looks like I may have to get a Linux system...

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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby The Korff » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:55 pm

The real question is where Apple's OS-naming policy will go from here. Sea Lion, maybe? I'm also not convinced by the progression from lion to mountain lion... Surely a lion, the king of the jungle, could kick a mountain lion's arse any day?
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby Dave Rowles » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:22 pm

And I can't find OS X lion on the app store...so no upgrade till I'm sure everything is going to work on mountain
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby agent funk » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:03 pm

nope, and you wont it's gone. Which is why I posted that link, if like me you have an older mac you will be stuck on snow now. Even though I could have got Lion, I can't run mountain which means I will have to stay on Snow unless I find someone elses disk image of Lion.

quite happy on snow, it's just of course I hope they keep the updates coming - remember that Flash trojan awhile back? They never did sort it out for Leopard, only Snow.....
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby zoosound » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:22 pm

+1 for sticking with snow. From here on in my mac with protools forever lives in 2011. I'm not updating pt beyond 9 either. I'd rather use tape, or maybe a pc :headbang:
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby desmond » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:10 pm

Personally, I think Snow Leopard so far has been by far the best version of OSX.

Streamlined, lean, efficient, stable, not too many gimmicky features, good enough legacy support (e.g. Rosetta) and so on.

Lion is quite bloaty and starts to incorporate gimmicky stuff, breaks or messes up previous features like full screen and spaces, starts to introduce horrifically skeuomorphic interfaces like iCal, is a memory hog and as for Mountain Lion - well, good reports so far, so we'll see...
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby turbodave » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:53 pm

Thumbs up for Snow Leopard, speed and stability, I will not join the Lion gang...as an aside, for the first time ever yesterday I had a virus alert on my Mac...it almost gave me a heart attack!..thanks Sophos. Dave
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby Thomas. » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:12 am

I upgraded my MacBook Air (second generation) to Mountain Lion, and it is quicker than it was under Lion. Also, I still have access to download Lion in the App Store (since I bought it as an upgrade last year), but I don't think you can buy it now.

To me, the "killer app" is iCloud integration of files, but I am aware that Dropbox pretty much does the same thing. And my music laptop is still running Snow Leopard, because mLan won't run on anything newer.
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby Guy Johnson » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:19 am

Yes I'm on Snow Leopard and am very happy with it.

I really don't like iCloud as opposed to Mobile Me ... And it seems as though these new Lions are biased towards this corporate 'lifestyle' experience of Macs, rather than than a decent user experience.

So I will stick with Snow Leopard for as long as possible.

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Apple has got so big and rich it's become overbearing, patronising and remote. Very sad.
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby ConcertinaChap » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:20 am

I'm also sticking with Snow Leopard. Everything is working just ticketty-boo, why take risks for an interface that doesn't impress me at all? Looks like both Apple and Microsoft are trying to make their OSes look like mobile phones. Haven't tried getting my 27" iMac in a pocket yet, but suspect I might need a big one.

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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby Bossman » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:41 pm

My studio machine is on Snow Leopard, and I have no intention of upgrading the OS on that machine as everything works and I don't want to upset a working stable system.

But my other machines are running Lion, I quite like Lion and I'm interested in Mountain Lion. I will probably upgrade one of my machines to ML in the near future. Or perhaps install in on an external disk so I can try it first.
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby Bossman » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:49 pm

Korff wrote:The real question is where Apple's OS-naming policy will go from here. Sea Lion, maybe? I'm also not convinced by the progression from lion to mountain lion... Surely a lion, the king of the jungle, could kick a mountain lion's arse any day?

I couldn't think of any other cat names that could come after Lion.. I thought Lion was going to be the last OSX, and then they would release OS11 or something.. with a different naming policy.

I do wonder what will be next.. they can't keep using different Lion names surely.
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby Richie Royale » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:20 pm

It'll be the Weasel family next, starting with the Least Weasel.
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby vinyl_junkie » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:41 pm

Surely it'll be a Fruit OS
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby ConcertinaChap » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:19 pm

OS 11.1 Cox's Orange Pippin
OS 11.2 Kingston Black
OS 11.3 Granny Smith
OS 11.4 Mountain Granny Smith

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I like it!

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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby agent funk » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:39 pm

puma? cougar?
cheetah - very fast that
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby Bossman » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:48 pm

fletcher wrote:puma? cougar?
cheetah - very fast that

Cheetah was OSX 10.0
Puma was OSX 10.1

Cougar hasn't been used yet.
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby stratquebec » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:45 pm

I think Apple is drifting, drifting, drifting away from what is was and will never be what it was. These days are over.
The days of desktops are counted too. Do they really have the choice? Now that everybody imitated Apple, Apple tries to imitate the others now because the competition is so heavy. Looks like Apple is affraid to loose a great part of the mobile market and all the philosophy is drifting toward that new tendancy that everything must be connected with everything, everywhere, all the time. Just compare the Apple tv and the Samsung Smart TV. Apple looks like a dinosaur compared tonthe others in the DLNA world...

Snow Leopard: how long will it remains supported? I'm affraid we won't have the choice to upgrade soon.
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby Dishpan » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:15 am

> Snow Leopard: how long will it remains supported? I'm affraid we won't have the choice to upgrade soon.

Really don't know what you're afraid of, ML works great (been running it here for ages with zero issues except Rig Kontrol which they've just released a working driver for), gives me BETTER performance than SL did (unlike Lion), boots up fast (<8 seconds here) and never crashes. The many refinements over SL make it far more usable in my opinion.
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby Thomas. » Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:28 am

Dishpan wrote:> Snow Leopard: how long will it remains supported? I'm affraid we won't have the choice to upgrade soon.

Really don't know what you're afraid of, ML works great (been running it here for ages with zero issues except Rig Kontrol which they've just released a working driver for), gives me BETTER performance than SL did (unlike Lion), boots up fast (<8 seconds here) and never crashes. The many refinements over SL make it far more usable in my opinion.

I also think ML is a big improvement to Lion. The problem that I have is lack of compatible drivers. Lion completed the move to 64 bit and Intel, with limited support for 32 bit, and no support for 'legacy' PPC drivers and apps. Which was right and proper, but caught a large number of manufacturers on the hop. And for some reason, they still haven't caught up.
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby johnny h » Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:00 am

stratquebec wrote:I think Apple is drifting, drifting, drifting away from what is was and will never be what it was. These days are over.
The days of desktops are counted too. Do they really have the choice? Now that everybody imitated Apple, Apple tries to imitate the others now because the competition is so heavy. Looks like Apple is affraid to loose a great part of the mobile market and all the philosophy is drifting toward that new tendancy that everything must be connected with everything, everywhere, all the time. Just compare the Apple tv and the Samsung Smart TV. Apple looks like a dinosaur compared tonthe others in the DLNA world...

Snow Leopard: how long will it remains supported? I'm affraid we won't have the choice to upgrade soon.

We'll all be killed
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Re: Mountain Lion is out

Postby Tui » Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:58 am

Dishpan wrote:gives me BETTER performance than SL did (unlike Lion)

Better, in what way? How new/old is your machine?
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