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Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby E D » Wed May 01, 2013 1:40 pm

After many, many years I'm planning to upgrade my system.
Currently using pre-intel G5 running Logic 7 (...), with built in Motu PCI 424 connected to Motu HD192. Would ike to keep using the Motu stuff and run this, with latest Logic on a new imac.
Do you think that's possible and if so, how?
Many thanks!
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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby G-Doubleyou » Wed May 01, 2013 3:50 pm

A solution but not cheap, http://www.sonnettech.com/product/echoexpresschassis.html

Retails for $799! Or sell the Motu and get a firewire/ thunderbolt interface.

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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby Goddard » Wed May 01, 2013 8:36 pm

Cough, hack, cough, intosh, cough, hack...
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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby Bob Bickerton » Wed May 01, 2013 8:53 pm

Bit of a dilemma that. As pointed out it'll be fairly expensive to keep the PCI option going.

I had a parallel problem with my UAD card running in a MacPro and was stuck in a cycle of keeping two computers current (laptop for portable work, MacPro for UAD access) but was very pleased to upgrade to an Apollo interface and settle on just running one easily upgradable (well at least at this stage) system.

Would now be a good time to review your audio hardware too? You'd pick up a new 896HD for just a little more than the Sonnet card solution. Or maybe consider holding off and buying a new MacPro if they ever arrive.

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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby Richie Royale » Thu May 02, 2013 11:17 am

Save money on an iMac, get a MacMini and upgrade the interface at the same time (and Logic too).
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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby E D » Thu May 02, 2013 12:43 pm

Thank you for your replies! Still a lot to consider (isn't there always?).
Sonnetech. Will look further into that.
New Macpro.Will it provide for PCI, you think?
Hackintosh. I'm probably getting too old for that...
Macmini. Will it be powerful enough?
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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby Richie Royale » Thu May 02, 2013 1:13 pm

The PCI standard was dropped with the G5 for PCIe so no new computer will be able to accomodate your card. Only an external chassis will be the solution to that and they cost as much as an interface.


I think a Mac Mini will be plenty powerful and compared to a pre-G5 model, will blow your socks off. ;) You could opt for the more expensive server one, there is a thread on here about going for that option.

Check out the Logic benchmark graph to get an idea (getting alittle old now, but still a good example)

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/371545-logic-pro-multicore-benchmarktest.html
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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby G-Doubleyou » Thu May 02, 2013 4:03 pm

E D wrote:Thank you for your replies! Still a lot to consider (isn't there always?).
Sonnetech. Will look further into that.
New Macpro.Will it provide for PCI, you think?
Hackintosh. I'm probably getting too old for that...
Macmini. Will it be powerful enough?
Thanks again.

Sure it will smoke your G5, my MBP is comparable to the 2008 8-core Mac Pro.
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/371545-logic-pro-multicore-benchmarktest.html

new machines are in the more recent threads.

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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby Goddard » Sat May 04, 2013 2:12 am

You'd need to upgrade to a MOTU PCIe 424 card in order to keep using your HD192 with a Pro (or else go for a Hackintosh with native PCI support in order to keep using your PCI 424 card).

The current Pro has become rather outdated now (why many opt to Hack).
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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby m4rvin » Sat May 04, 2013 2:20 am

you could try get a new driver software...

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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby E D » Sat May 04, 2013 1:42 pm

Sorry, not sure what you mean. Please explain.
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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby G-Doubleyou » Sat May 04, 2013 3:17 pm

m4rvin wrote:you could try get a new driver software...

That's not the problem, the issue is iMacs don't have PCIe slots.

I would take a look at an Apollo, I upgraded from a MOTU 828mkI to an Apollo Duo.
The difference in the sound was like night and day, plus being able to track live instruments through UAD Plugs.

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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby E D » Sat May 04, 2013 8:44 pm

Had a look at Apollo. looks great. Particularly with the inclusion of the plugins. Thing is though, I have a Focusrite Isa 220 which has mic pre amp, compression, eq etc (at recording stage). That kind of makes the Apollo 'over qualified', dont you think?
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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby G-Doubleyou » Mon May 06, 2013 4:56 pm

E D wrote:Had a look at Apollo. looks great. Particularly with the inclusion of the plugins. Thing is though, I have a Focusrite Isa 220 which has mic pre amp, compression, eq etc (at recording stage). That kind of makes the Apollo 'over qualified', dont you think?

Overqualified? the Apollo has superior A/D, so far the consensus is that only the Apogee Symphony beats it sound-wise in that price range.

Apollo will probably be the last interface I'll ever buy.

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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby Bob Bickerton » Mon May 06, 2013 8:59 pm

E D wrote:Had a look at Apollo. looks great. Particularly with the inclusion of the plugins. Thing is though, I have a Focusrite Isa 220 which has mic pre amp, compression, eq etc (at recording stage). That kind of makes the Apollo 'over qualified', dont you think?

The Apollo is an amazing piece of kit and the compression of the 220 is no substitute for post processing. Ideally you would not track with compression on anyway. I have a 420 going into the Apollo over ADAT and then a DAV going into the line inputs of the Apollo. Nothing 'over qualified' on the Apollo there unless you don't seek wonderful sound!

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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby E D » Wed May 22, 2013 9:13 pm

What i meant by 'over qualified' is that Apollo provides functions like mic preamp etc already present in my system by means of the Focusrite.
Perhaps it is time for the Focusrite to go (sell it) and upgrade more fully than I originally thought?
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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby Bob Bickerton » Thu May 23, 2013 8:52 am

Why don't you tell us more about what you do with your system, how many tracks you record at a time, style etc, and what you currently use for post production. You'd probably get more useful responses (though a wider and more confusing range as well!)

It's inevitable that gear, especially computer based gear, becomes redundant. But some stuff, like your 220 and microphones are keepers.

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Re: Motu PCI-424, new imac

Postby Gerhard Westphalen » Fri May 24, 2013 11:56 pm

I'm not sure if this would work but you could get a cheap interface with adat as well as a nice interface. Connect the cheap to the old computer. Internally route the signal from the Motu out to the adat on the cheap interface and go into adat on the other interface with the new computer that way you can still use the Motu but just as converters.
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