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Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Martin Walker » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:54 pm

Hi Everyone!

Intel's Dual and Quad-core processors are still extremely popular among most musicians, and offer a huge amount of processing power compared with machines of a couple of years ago. However, for those who want even more processing power, the firm favourite is now Intel's Core i7 range, and in particular the 920 model, which is the most cost effective.

I'd be interested in hearing from those who have taken the plunge and either bought such a system ready-built from a specialist music retailer, or built it themselves. Although there are already various threads running with queries from those who want to build such a PC, this thread could be the ideal place to compile lots of feedback from those in the know

If you're currently running a system based around an Intel Core i7 processor, please post its spec:

Motherboard/chipset
Processor
Graphics card
Audio interface
Any DSP cards

Please indicate how pleased (or not) you are with its performance, how this compares with your previous machine (and briefly what that was) in terms of the different CPU meter readings when opening up existing songs, and mention any problems you've encountered. Of course this isn't particularly scientific, but it will certainly help us assemble a more complete picture of what's already happening out there.

Please try not to hi-jack this thread too much with queries - let's try to keep it largely devoted to feedback from those who've already taken the plunge.

Many thanks!


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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby musicbox » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:02 pm

I have just taken delivery of an i7 machine.
Asus P6tDeluxe Motherboard
X58 Chipset
i7 920
Nvidia 9400 GT
RME HDSP
UAD1
SSL Duende PCIe

I am running Nuendo 4, Wavelab 6, CD Architect 5.2, Waves plug ins. Networked to a Radar 24. Firewire to Tascam DM4800 and Liquid Mix.

Previous machine was a Q6600.

New one appears a bit quicker. I have had some issues with Nuendo but I think that there was a conflict between Acronis and Nuendo. Having removed Acronis it seems to be fine. One point of interest, This machine does not work with my Lindy DVI USB KVM Switcher, possibly a timing issue but windows sees no monitor mouse or keyboard from a cold boot.

My machine is rackmounted in an Antec rack case and was built for me by Millenium Music in Nottingham. I have a 7200 rpm system drive and a Velociraptor 10,000 rpm audio drive (a bit noisy)

Temperatures are good and in the main I am pleased with the upgrade.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Gary M » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:54 pm

Just out of interest how is it all working with the desk FW connection?

what Operating system you using and do you have separate firewire carss for liquid mix and DM.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Peter C » Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:10 pm

Hi,

I always hesitate to post in threads like this, because:

1. I define "working" as having no problems over a three year period, by which time the info is a tad out of date.

2. Someone, somewhere, will always be able to find some compatability problem with almost any machine by adding sufficiently esoteric things.


However, so far I have built i7 machines using three GigaByte Boards (GA-EX-DS4/UD4/UD4P) and various combinations of RAM and Graphics, and tested them with soundcards from RME 9632, ESI Julia@ and Echo 3G, plus one PCIe UAD1.

The performance is excellnt - noticably faster than a Q9550 or Q9650 which cost about the same - so i7 machines are definately excellent value for money, and I'd receommend i7 unless you are looking for an entry level machine based on Phenom II or Q8300 (say).

I have not, personally, manged to unearth any problems whatsoever, even running 12GB RAM - 6GB of DDR3 1600Mhz plus 6GB of DDR 1333Mhz - at 1600Mhz, with the UAD1 and and any combination of two of those soundcards installed simultaneously.

The Graphics Cards include:

GigaByte 8600GT
Palit 9500 GT
Sapphire HD 3570
Sapphire HD 3450
HIS HD 4650


My broad conclusion is that i7 and EX58 works. The issue, rather, is to identify specific incompatabilities.

Based on threads on this and other forums, I'd say these are points to watch out for:

1. nVidia and UAD incompatability
2. MOTU 424 and TI F'wire chipset incmpatability
3. Wierd restrictions when running multiple UADs or PoCos in the 16 lane PCIe slots



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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Quint Essence » Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:43 pm

I've just build myself an Intel i7 based system and I definitely have no regrets, the overall speed is much faster & efficient, but then again it has been a big step from my last build with an out-dated AMD dual core...not that I think AMD are crap though, this is my first ever Intel system...

The only fault I made was buying XP PRO 64Bit instead of Vista 64, this is due to compatibility issue's with XP PRO 64 otherwise XP would have my vote over Vista.

I cannot really make a huge contribution to this thread as I have only recently built this system and I'm currently in the process of buying my music production software.
I've always used cracked software in the past but I now refuse to on my beautiful new setup!

* My New System:

* Cooler Master Cosmos RC-1000 Case
* Asus P6T Deluxe X58 Motherboard
* Intel i7 920 2.66 GHz CPU
* 6GB Corsair Dominator DDR3, 1600MHz Memory
* Cooler Master 850W Real Power Modular PSU
* Noctua NH-U12P CPU Cooler
* 500GB Seagate Barracuda
* LG Lightscribe Blu-Ray Disk & HD DVD Rom Drive
* XP Professional 64Bit SP2

I will update when software is purchased & running.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby musicbox » Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:52 pm

Yes, working with FW to DM and Liquid Mix. DM from motherboard and Liquid mix on a PCIe card. Operating system is Windows XP Pro.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Tommyhell » Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:59 pm

Hi,
here's my new DAW:
-Intel i7 920
-ASUS P6T se
-3x2GB 1333 Kingston RAM
-Club 3d GF9400GT silent
-Nexus NX3500 350W PSU
-WD 160GB system drive
-RME HDSP PCI

I've partitioned the system drive in two and I'm using a very heavily modified XP as the audio OS and have VISTA 32 as the OS for internet tasks and such.
I also plan on getting two more SATA drives for audio to run in RAID1 for extra security.
So far I've just installed the system and updated vista(which ended up at about 50GB!!! so far) and run the daw bench with my M-audio fast track. The performance is unreal. Before I had an AMD 64x2 4200+ system and managed maximum 46 MBC's running but now I can have all 200 MBC's on at the lowest buffer settings(128) that the card supports.

And the machine is so quiet you wouldn't know it was on unless you saw the power led. That's with the stock cooler!!

I know the PSU is not too big but I calculated that it's well enough for my setup. And if I ever get any UAD's or such I can then upgrade the PSU, but for now it enough.

Very, very cool!!!

-Tomi-
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby XXXEsq » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:10 pm

I've just installed my new i7 DAW.

i7-920
Giga EX58UD5
3 gigs of DDR3-1600
EN8600GT
3 WD Caviar SATA3 drives 250/750/1TB
Antec Take4
2 Steinberg MR816 (1 CSX, 1 X)
Mackie Control
XPPro32
Cubase 5 with a substantial instrument and processor plugin library.

Its running so well I can't really believe it. (I'm afraid talking about it may jinx something.) Projects that my old system couldn't run without lots of pre-rendering and bypassing of effects are working wide open with less than 20%cpu usage. Rock solid this far...
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby jpetrou » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:57 am

hey guys i just built a new pc with an i7... im a tad dissapointed in the performance, heres the specs anyway:

intel i7 920
g.skill ddr3 1333 x 4gb
gigabyte ex58-ds4 motherboard
sapphire x1800xt video card
motu ultralite
3x 500gb seagate 7200rpm drives (audio)
1x 500gb seagate 7200rpm drive (program files)

on the program files drive i have installed my audio apps and vsts, plus adobe photoshop,nero,soulseek.... and some other insignificant programs. i keep my pc reverted and clean and dont install anything i dont need.

i have the latest version of norton antivirus and even though they say it isnt a system resource hog, i still think it is.

it runs applications well and is reliable, but still i want rendering and processing audio to go faster... i thought this machine was gonna be the one that blows me away. but it is not the case.

iam upgrading the ram to 2100 speed 4g, some corsair hopefully, and some larger 1tb drives to see if that speeds it up much more.

i want to be able to be burning a cd, using cubase, have photoshop open, and installing a new app all at the same time, and have the ability to switch between windows and apps whilst all this is happening without delay and slight pausing.... maybe iam dreaming...or maybe i need to spend $5000+

iam using reason4 and cubase5. i have
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Tommyhell » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:43 pm

jpetrou wrote:hey guys i just built a new pc with an i7... im a tad dissapointed in the performance, heres the specs anyway:

intel i7 920
g.skill ddr3 1333 x 4gb
gigabyte ex58-ds4 motherboard
sapphire x1800xt video card
motu ultralite
3x 500gb seagate 7200rpm drives (audio)
1x 500gb seagate 7200rpm drive (program files)

on the program files drive i have installed my audio apps and vsts, plus adobe photoshop,nero,soulseek.... and some other insignificant programs. i keep my pc reverted and clean and dont install anything i dont need.

i have the latest version of norton antivirus and even though they say it isnt a system resource hog, i still think it is.

it runs applications well and is reliable, but still i want rendering and processing audio to go faster... i thought this machine was gonna be the one that blows me away. but it is not the case.

iam upgrading the ram to 2100 speed 4g, some corsair hopefully, and some larger 1tb drives to see if that speeds it up much more.

i want to be able to be burning a cd, using cubase, have photoshop open, and installing a new app all at the same time, and have the ability to switch between windows and apps whilst all this is happening without delay and slight pausing.... maybe iam dreaming...or maybe i need to spend 000+

iam using reason4 and cubase5. i have

Why would you need to have all those programs running at the same time? I really think you should prioritise your needs. You don't wan't to be doing all those things while burning cd's and specially audio cd's because of the possible burn errors.
And what about cubase and photoshop? Are you going to be editing photos while recording/mixing a song or playing a soft synth?

But seriously, it all depends what you are comparing the system against. For instance I had an AMD 64x2 4200 based system before and can honestly say that my new i7 is roughly 6 times more powerful than my previous one.
If you already had a powerful computer(core2 extreme for example) the performance gain isn't that great.

And performance wise, have you tested your machine with low latencies? That's where the power really shows.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Martin Walker » Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:49 am

Tommyhell wrote:And performance wise, have you tested your machine with low latencies? That's where the power really shows.


Indeed it does - if you read my recent review of Scan's Core i7 Music PC in SOS February 2009, look at the performance graph I created:

www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb09/articles ... rdawpc.htm

Notice how only the Core i7 performance holds up with the 32-sample buffer size, whereas with the other processors you can end up only being able to run half the number of plug-ins.


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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Agharta » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:10 pm

jpetrou wrote:hey guys i just built a new pc with an i7... im a tad dissapointed in the performance
Well even the fastest and shiniest new CPU can’t mitigate for other system bottlenecks unfortunately.

jpetrou wrote:i have the latest version of norton antivirus and even though they say it isnt a system resource hog, i still think it is.
Well why not uninstall it and see if that helps!

jpetrou wrote:it runs applications well and is reliable, but still i want rendering and processing audio to go faster... i thought this machine was gonna be the one that blows me away. but it is not the case.
For that you probably need the dual processor Xeon version which was released last week.

jpetrou wrote:iam upgrading the ram to 2100 speed 4g, some corsair hopefully, and some larger 1tb drives to see if that speeds it up much more.
The faster RAM will have a much more noticeable impact on your wallet than your system’s performance. It’s generally not worth it as the tri-channel DDR3 with the x58 chipset has a very high bandwidth to start with so the law of diminishing returns kicks in.

Make sure you buy the latest HDDs with the higher densities per platter; they’re up to 500GB per platter now.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby aveatrex » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:53 am

Just bought my new system as my old hard drive just bit the dust. Thank god I had everything backed up.

New system is:

Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) 8000K
Intel Socket 1366 CPU fan
MSI X58 Platinum, DDR3, SLI & Cross Fire, 2x GB LAN, iEEE
6GB (3x2GB) PC3 10600 DDR3 1333 Triple Channel
GeForce 9400GT 1GB PCI EXpress 16X dual head, tv out
250.0GB Maxtor/ Seagate 7200rpm SATA2 UDMA 300 16m Cache
320.0GB Maxtor/ Seagate 7200rpm SATA2 UDMA 300 16m Cache
Samsung LightScribe 20x SATA DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW
APEVIA X-Cruiser Black, Side Window, front USB,iEEE,Temp control
Antec Basiq 500w Extra Quiet ATX Power Supply w/ 6pin PCI-E
Microsoft Windows XP Professional 64bit


I use Sonar and a Tascam FW-1884, so I'm pretty excited to see how it uses all the cores. My old system was about 4 years old.

I'll update on how everything gels together.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Vivi22 » Fri May 01, 2009 1:18 pm

Tommyhell wrote:Why would you need to have all those programs running at the same time? I really think you should prioritise your needs. You don't wan't to be doing all those things while burning cd's and specially audio cd's because of the possible burn errors.
And what about cubase and photoshop? Are you going to be editing photos while recording/mixing a song or playing a soft synth?

I suppose he might want to have Photoshop rendering something in the background, but even if that were the case, rendering is a resource hog. There's a difference between expecting a new rig to perform better than an old one, and expecting it to do everything you want at once and make you a sandwich while doing it. There's definitely a disconnect between your expectations and what is actually feasible here.

And I'll agree with an earlier post about upgrading your RAM. It's likely you could even see a performance drop to be honest (as minor as it would be) as latency gets quite a bit higher in the higher bandwidth DDR3 memory you can actually lose some performance in some applications. Even if you actually did end up with improvement going with the same amount of higher bandwidth RAM, it's likely not going to be huge.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Diaper » Thu May 07, 2009 2:30 am

Just finished using an i7 upgrade. Major difference w/ Kontakt now too. I am somewhat new to Kontakt since switching from Gigastudio/GVI. It needs much more CPU than Giga. The i7 seems to have fixed my Kontakt issues.

GIGABYTE X58 UD4P
12GB'S GSKILL DDR3 2000 CL8
INTEL I7 945 DO STEPPING
EVGA GEFORCE 9600GT
1U SONICCORE XITE-1 DSP RACK
VISTA 32BIT O.S.

JUST GOT THE XITE-1 RECENTLY AND IT IS PERFECT FOR LIVE PERFORMANCE.THE MOST POWERFUL SOUNDCARD I EVER HAD.,,,
I ONLY NEED THE 64BIT DRIVERS.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Michael. » Thu May 14, 2009 6:16 am

Another working i7 build here:

Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 Motherboard (using F4 bios as shipped)
Intel Core i7 920 @ stock 2.66GHz
Gigabyte Radeon HD 4850 1GB (GV-R485MC-1GH) Graphics Card
Line6 Toneport UX8 (USB2 audio)
UAudio UAD-2 Quad

12GB RAM, running under Vista64.

I'm very pleased with the performance, but then it was always going to be much better than an AMD x2 4200+.

The only real problem I've encountered was with hard-disk access errors hanging windows - this was because I didn't setup as AHCI at first, which means Vista accesses the disks in legacy mode - changing to AHCI fixed everything.

Ableton Live 8 seems to not like Vista64 sometimes, but all of my other software has worked fine.

Also found jBridge (http://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/) to be very useful wrt 32/64 bit VSTs.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Geoff Modulate » Thu May 28, 2009 10:50 am

Just joined the forum though I have been a reader of the mag for many years. This forum was very useful in building the audio PC so thanks for all the suggestions.

My system:

Intel i7 920 2.66Mhz overclocked to 3.00Mhz
Artic Silver thermal paste & stock cooler
Nvidia 980 GTX+ gfx card (I know it has a fan...but I like the odd game and given you can dynamically alter the speed it is practically silent for music use)
Corsair VX550w PSU
3GB OCZ XMP DDR3 memory
Gigabyte EX58-UD3R mobo
Seagate Barracuda 500gb hard drive
Access Virus TI desktop as soundcard

XP SP3 - I had issues with my old Zyxel modem not installing due to SP3 blocking the RasXP file used in the installation. Otherwise made the usual tweeks to XP for audio optimisation.

The OCZ memory will only run at 1066/1.5v despite being 1600/1.65v. Changing the speed or enabling XMP stops the system booting. A minor issue really given how much overhead I have right now but a niggle none the less.

The Virus was initially pretty glitchy with the audio. A lot of this seemed down to the various Speedstep and CIA functions on the BIOS. Esp when using the Energy Saving software. I've disabled as much of that side as I can in the BIOS, turned off the Energy Saver and run Easy Tune in stealth mode and it now runs like a dream. It'll happily run at the minimum sample buffer (3ms latency), 24bit/44.1khz with no glitching at all. The TI element however only works up to 'Normal' latency...I'm guessing sending MIDI via USB to the TI, it sending the info down the USB to the VST plug, then that coming back out as audio is too much information for USB to handle below about 6ms latency. The soft synth & audio channels still run fine...you just lose the TI sounds

Of note also is the TI Firewire chip on the Gigabyte EX58 mobo series...though I haven't had opportunity to test it yet.

I've overclocked to 3.00mhz, no issues at all. I've not been able to get the CPU above 45'C yet and that's with a stock cooler. What would have killed my old Athlon 3200XP now barely hits 10-15% on this at much lower latencies. I tend to use a lot of soft synths with a lot of insert effects so this really suits my working methods. Typically around 30 audio channels, maybe 10 nice compressor VST's, 5-8 soft synths, a few insert effects, some ambient insert reverb on a few channels a couple of convolution reverbs/delays on the aux sends and maybe a warmer & bus limiter on the master. A project like that is hitting 11-15% CPU at 6ms latency, 44.1/24 bit for a real world example.

So far so good. I am very very impressed with the performance and I suspect it's going to make a very good studio workhorse for many years to come. It suits my soft synth and effect heavy work methods very very well (I write electro/hard techno dance music). It took a bit of tweeking to find settings that worked well, both with the BIOS and with the sound card but once they are established it provides a very fast system with terrific potential for overclocking should you wish to do that.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby ckett » Sun May 31, 2009 12:13 pm

Here are the specs of a new i7 PC I just built to run Cubase 4.

Asus P6T Deluxe V2 w/ latest Bios Motherboard
Intel i7 920 Processor
Zalman CPNS9700 CPU Cooler
Corsair 3GB (1x3) TR3X3G1600C8D Dominator RAM
Gigabyte NVidia 8600GT Fanless Graphics Card
Seagate Hardrives
Windows XP Professional SP3 - 32bit

BIOS tweaks took a little time to figure out for proper RAM timings. I haven't overclocked the CPU yet.

Working really well at the moment.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby ckett » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:28 am

Well,

After a few days of using the ASUS P6T Deluxe V.2 it has been giving me trouble. The BIOS is a little flakey. The computer will not shut off without restarting. If you completely power off the computer ( when it works ) then go to power it back on, the BIOS will lose its time/date CMOS settings. Sometimes it will lose all of your BIOS settings.

I have since replaced this with a Gigabyte EX58-UD4P and this is solid!

Much faster response time and rock solid BIOS!
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby MarkE » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:28 am

Intel Core Nehalem i7 920 S1366 2.66GHz
Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 (North Bridge: Intel X58 Express - South Bridge: Intel ICH10R)
OCZ DDR3 4GB - (XP sees 3.25GB (3Gig switch))
NVidia 7200GS GC 256MB
Noctua CPU Fan
Seagate 320GB 7200 rpm SATA2
2 x Seagate 1TB 7200 rpm SATA2
Seasonic SS-650ET-F3 Ultra Quiet PSU
LG CD/DVD
Rack Case
10 x USB 2 (Apparently 12 but only 10 hooked up)
3 x Firewire 400
3 x Firewire 800 (via Belkin PCI card)

2 x UAD-2 Quads
4 x UAD-1 (in Magma PCI 7 Slot)
TC Powercore Express
RME Fireface 800
Steinberg Midex 8

Win XP Pro
Steinberg Cubase SX 3.1.1.944
Reaper 3

Only one problem, when I use the Magma with the four UAD-1's the available memory is reduced to 2GB. There is an explanation regarding this problem here (look for a post by blueguitarbob). Aside from that, it's excellent! Solid as a rock and next to silent. Supplied by DV.

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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Vytis » Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:52 pm

Good afternoon, sorry to hijack this thread. I am going to bite the bullet and build myself an i7 DAW (primarily for running Nuendo 4). I'm on a really tight budget, yet I don't want to compromise (in the long-term sense).

I've managed to compile a complete list of components for £790 (that's around $1250 / 905 EUR) and would really appreciate your comments. Unfortunately that's as far as I can stretch... Anything likely to give problems? Should I simply not bother with i7 at this price point? Is that PSU OK?

Gigabyte EX58-UD4
Intel Core i7 920
3GB Corsair DDR3 RAM XMS3
Gigabyte Nvidia 9500 GT
2 x 500GB Western Digital Caviar Black
Scythe Orochi CPU cooler (scarily large, but claims 11dB(A) noise level... will this fit???)
Xilence 550W ultra-quiet PSU
Lian Li PC-C32B rackmountable case
Windows XP Home SP3 (I've already got that)
To be used with either PCI or firewire RME audio interface

Total: £790 including shipping!

Any thoughts would be very much appreciated.

Many many thanks.

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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby jazzpick » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:00 pm

Peter C wrote:so i7 machines are definately excellent value for money, and I'd receommend i7 unless you are looking for an entry level machine based on Phenom II or Q8300 (say).



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Aside budget and from the performance aspect, an AMD Phenom II as a generic term is not a entry level machine, news PII bring impressive high level benchmark for audio and multimedia, enough for recording and producing of professional grade projects. Check PII X4/X2 AM3 955 and the rest of family members. Even as an Intel user I am amazed with this AMD processors releases.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Clayphish » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:45 pm

My new System:

Intel 920 i7 2.66ghz
GA-EX58-UD4P
Corsair 3gb Dominator 1600mhz
Sapphire ati 4550 Fanless
Corsair HX520w PSU
WD 500gb Caviar Black HD
RME digi96 PAD

I just finished testing it and putting it through its paces. I gotta say its rock solid and very peppy. Compared to my previous PC (AMD64 2800+ system), its about 60% faster if not a wee bit more.

For this build I was very very careful about picking the components because the technology is a bit newer then I'm used to when wishing to build a stable machine. One of the aspects which I focused on the most was the motherboard. With all the horror stories about the 1366 boards having some design flaws, I hesitantly picked the gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P as at least more people were expressing positive experiences with it. It did have the infamous electrical whine which was expressed by many, but it was easily remedied with a bios update and disabling of the power saving 'Advanced CPU Halt' feature in the v.8 of the bios. So far I'd say I'm liking this motherboard better then all the previous Asus boards I've owned. Lets just say everything is laid out very well.

As for if I would change anything. I think I'd get a better CPU fan. While the temps are adequate they could be better.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Deleted User » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:14 pm

Martin Walker wrote:
Tommyhell wrote:And performance wise, have you tested your machine with low latencies? That's where the power really shows.


Indeed it does - if you read my recent review of Scan's Core i7 Music PC in SOS February 2009, look at the performance graph I created:

<a href="/sos/feb09/articles/scanpowerdawpc.htm" target="_blank">www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb09/articles/scanpowerdawpc.htm</a>

Notice how only the Core i7 performance holds up with the 32-sample buffer size, whereas with the other processors you can end up only being able to run half the number of plug-ins.


Martin


I was very impressed with the bench marks you showed. I have the mag.

Unlucky for me at the time I'd just purchased a Q9450.

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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Martin Walker » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:09 pm

Never mind Steve


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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby tyacko » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:59 pm

Here is my current i7 system:

Motherboard: ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX
Processor: i7 920 Core
RAM: CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM - 8 GIG Total
Video Card: GeForce 8600 GT
Audio Interface: Lynx AES-16
DSP cards: 1 UAD-1, 1 UAD-2

Running this with Windows Vista 64-bit SP-2. It is tremendously faster than my previous Quad Core machine (QX6850 processor, 8 gigs of DDR2 RAM). The video, audio, and DSP cards are from my previous machine. I also moved my SSD (Intel X25) OS drive into the machine as well. Projects that would struggle on my Quad Core don't even hiccup on this new machine.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby lost track » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:23 pm

Hi all,


I'm putting together a new system tonight.

Intel i7 920
Gigabyte EX58-UD5 (for 2x LAN)
6gb OCZ 1333mhz i7 ram
Gigabyte 8400GT silent GPU
be quiet! 550w PSU
3x 1TB WD Caviar Black (fixed 7200rpm)
3x scythe silent drive enclosures (these look expensive but are really hefty and cool the drive more than if they weren't there) So big, I'm going to have to remote mount the CD drive, as I've run out of 5.25" bays!
Rackmount black case from x-case.
Creamware Luna2496 i/o.

I'm pretty excited to get it all up and running. I've got XP32 but still went for 6gb ram so it's matched and I don't have to splash out again when I upgrade to 64-bit (whenever that's going to be).



Does anyone have any system building tips? I've got my static band. Is there a better order to install certain software in? Reset between installs? Graphics first, then sound?

Will post my results very soon.
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Martin Walker » Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:28 pm

lost track wrote:Does anyone have any system building tips? I've got my static band. Is there a better order to install certain software in? Reset between installs? Graphics first, then sound?

I wrote 'Installing A New PC Motherboard: The SOS Guide' that might help with the basics, including the order of assembly, wiring up, and so on:

www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec03/articles/pcmusician.htm

Then you could read my 'Installing A Windows OS From Scratch':

www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar07/articles ... n_0307.htm

...which suggests covers BIOS updates, Windows installation, installing Service Packs, updated drivers, activation & licensing issues, and hotfixes.

Personally I'd do all this and get Windows activated, then make an image file before installing any further software, so you have a vanilla set up to return to if you ever run into problems later on.

Hope this helps!


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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby mkok » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:21 pm

Hi all

Well after reading here and a few other sites as well as pc builders I have built the following. Note no hard drive as I already had a few to hand from my dead pc.

Antec P183 Advanced Super Mid Tower
Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P Motherboard
Intel Core i7-920 D0 Stepping CPU
Akasa Nero cooler ak-967
6GB Corsair XMS3 1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Kit
700W OCZ StealthXStream PSU
Sapphire Radeon HD 3450 Graphics Card 512MB

Cubase 5 and yamaha n12 desk

So here are my findings so far. At first after reading a few forums I thought I may get away with running win 7. I have win 7 ordered as well for £45. I installed cubase 5 64 as well as the n12 64 bit driver. Initially I thought this worked but then got the blue screen on closing cubase. With a bit of advise I tried cubase 5 32bit and again this did work for a while but then again started with blod when closing cubase. By the way cubase ran like a dream and saved just fine. The crash was only on shutdown. I have now installed xp pro 32 bit and everything works like before except I only have 3.5gig of memory. Still the speed is brilliant. I have a very stable overclock at 3.2ghz which only ever gets to 40 degrees.

I still have win 7 on another partition and will carry on trying stuff. I'm sure when it is released and yamaha get new drivers out it will be awsome.

Strangely reaper 64 works fine on win 7 64 with the n12 lol. you would think yamaha and steiny would work but seems not!!!!
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Re: Survey Of Working Intel Core i7 PC Music Systems

Postby Metheny » Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:49 pm

Hi friends,

I´ve just posted at the newbies forum, as this is my second post.

I also built an i7 system:

Intel i7 920
Gigabyte EX58-UD4P
Noctua NH-U12P SE 1366 CPU Cooler
2 x Seagate Barracuda 1TB
Kingston 6GB DDR3 1333MHz
Asus EN9400GT Silent
Antec P182
Enermax Modu 82+ 625W
Windows 7 64 bits
Cubase 5

The system is working great, the performance is amazing, but I´m having trouble finding a quiet PSU.

I first put a Corsair HX620, but I heard a loud coil whine, I thought the PSU was damaged, so I changed it for the same one, and the result was the same. Finally I bought a more expensive one (the Enermax Modu 82+ 625W), but now I find it noisier than the Corsair... because I can hear the fan, and sometimes some "pops". The coil whine disappears in any PSU if you disable "Advanced CPU halt" in Gigabyte BIOS.

If you could recommend me a silent PSU, I would probably buy it. Which PSU are you installing with Gigabyte motherboards?.


Best regards,
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