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AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby RichardHK » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:01 am

Dear All,

Looking for help and advice on a relatively new AV technology that my music composition son likes the look and feel of. He has reasonable MIDI skills but to me, these items seem to be too limiting in their application - or am I missing something?

Q1: Has anyone here used these AudioCubes (AV midi devices, not the monitors)? Are they useful?

Q2: If any users out there - would starting off with one or two cubes be practical?

http://www.percussa.com/

Would have thought SOS would have picked up on these for a review or news comment at least. But nothing - which further dampens my interest.

Thanks for any advice or comments.

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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby RichardHK » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:38 am

Oh well... 241 views (thanks all) and no comments in 2 weeks.
Guess that means these oddball items are just that. Odd cubes indeed. Better skip and find something else to spend precious time and money on.
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby Martin Walker » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:10 pm

Hi Richard,

Sorry you got no replies, but given that if you try to buy some of those AudioCubes you get the message “Due to large interest there is a waiting list for AudioCubes. Enter your email address to join” it’s perhaps not surprising that others here haven’t any experience with them

They certainly look interesting though!


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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby James Perrett » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:56 pm

Possibly an unfortunate choice of name as some people will assume that you're talking about a very expensive audio workstation - The Audiocube DAW.

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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby RichardHK » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:03 pm

Hi Martin and James,

That long waiting list might be a marketing ploy (?). My boy, who is interested in these devices, sent an enquiry email and he can get them as soon as he confirms/pays. Demand not so high it seems. Makes me worry a little more - on behalf of the lad that is, as he will pay with his own hard-earned cash this time.

Searching on Google for Audio Cubes also turns up, urr.. Audio Cube monitors too.

Thanks for your comments.

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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby Bob Moose » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:27 pm

I guess these are controllers that use distance as the control parameter. They put it into nice looking cubes with built-in LEDs whose intensity changes automatically with the distance. I have no idea how to integrate this system into a music software though (hopefully something like MIDI or OSC).

I never used these particular devices, but similar ones when making some public interactive artistic installations.

You can make more or less the same with the Doepfer Poket Electronics and distance sensors, for example. The advantage of the Pocket Electronics (and similar solutions) is that you can choose the sensors you want: you are not limited to distance sensors and you can use pressure sensors, potentiometers, light dependant resistors, presence sensors, flexible sensors, ribbons, etc.

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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby RichardHK » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:49 am

Thanks for that Bob, yes they have just distance sensors I believe. A software package is supplied to link them to your DAW, but just a little too simple in my mind. You also need a dark room to appreciate the cube colour changes so no use for a large venue, or daytime show.

Have passed on your info to my boy for his follow up research. He is wanting to do interactive live shows.

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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby humandrums » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:29 am

there really cool looking, never seen anyone using them live closest i can think of is maybe jean michelle jarre used something along these lines?
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby Pete Kaine » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:19 am

James Perrett wrote:Possibly an unfortunate choice of name as some people will assume that you're talking about a very expensive audio workstation - The Audiocube DAW.


Never seen that before.... I actually assumed he meant http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr07/a ... xcubes.htm
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby Martin Walker » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:22 pm

Well I finally seemed to have kick-started your thread with a vengeance Richard

RichardHK wrote:That long waiting list might be a marketing ploy (?). My boy, who is interested in these devices, sent an enquiry email and he can get them as soon as he confirms/pays. Demand not so high it seems. Makes me worry a little more - on behalf of the lad that is, as he will pay with his own hard-earned cash this time.

It could be a way to gauge the amount of interest before placing an order for any manufactured parts - I can understand someone wanting to get at least a few dozen potential orders before committing to hundreds of sets of parts

A cheery email might get you more information


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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby Bob Moose » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:38 pm

RichardHK wrote:Thanks for that Bob, yes they have just distance sensors I believe. A software package is supplied to link them to your DAW, but just a little too simple in my mind. You also need a dark room to appreciate the cube colour changes so no use for a large venue, or daytime show.

Have passed on your info to my boy for his follow up research. He is wanting to do interactive live shows.

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Well for interactive live shows these Audio Cubes are rather limited I'm afraid. I mean, you can do something interesting using them, but what will you do the next time? I guess it will sound / look too similar.

Most people who do interactive live shows use more open hardware like the Doepfer I mentioned (the Doepfer website itself is a good introduction to open electronics). There are many other solutions but they all use the same idea: converting analogue control voltages into MIDI data, or OSC in some cases. To put it differently, it's a kind of control surface on which you can choose the physical controls, like sliders, light-dependent resistors, pressure sensors, flexion sensors, distance sensors, etc (there are countless types of compatible sensors). It does not require any high-level electronics skills, besides perhaps soldering or identifying the right pins on the board.

When it comes to software for live interactive shows, many people use Pure Data or Max (because it is easy to integrate hardware interfaces with them), or similar programs. But depending on the context you can really use what you want, including usual DAWs with VSTs, or even your own programs.

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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby The Elf » Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:03 pm

These (or something very like them) made an appearance on an Gadget Show repeat this morning.

They look like another of those 'Technically impressive, but would I really use them?' type oddities.

I have a 'Boggle' game that uses a set of tiles that work out where they are in relation to one another and allow you to make words. It's good fun, but accidentally knock them and it gets very confused, occasionally locking up altogether!
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance

Postby RichardHK » Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:50 am

>>They look like another of those 'Technically impressive, but would I really use them?' type oddities.<<

Thanks again all for input here. The Elf's comment is well in line with my advice to my boy. I can understand his desire to do something special, and Michel Jarre is certainly a good model for doing interesting stuff. But his theremin-like laser number I saw was not something you could repeat too often as noted above by Bob.
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