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Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby BillB » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:01 pm

Hi folks

I have become aware of and interested in Arturia Analog Experience SOS Arturia AE review here - (the standalone software, not the keyboard version). Apart from the fact that it assembles 3500 sounds from 6 of their highly-rated synths, the thing that interests me most is the librarian function, which allows you to search amongst:
- the Synths (Arp/Moog/Prophet etc - probably the least useful option?)
- Type (eg Bass, Brass, Strings etc)
- Characteristics (eg bright, noise, long, ambient etc)

As you click more options, so the list of sounds to the right is filtered, and importantly, you can select more than one of each type. So you could pick Type=Bass+Brass, Character=bright+noise+short. Seems to me you are going to fairly quickly get to audition the kind of sound (or feel) you have in your head.

With Analog Experience, having found something close to what you are after, you get a fair degree of tweakability (envelopes/filters) and if you can afford the original VSTs as well (around £150 each or all for around £400), you can open up the sound in the relevant VST for full editing. You can also save your edited sounds as User presets (factory presets cannot be overwritten).

So that all sounds great, but before investing in this particular product, I would like to ask the assembled knowledge of SOS forum as to whether there are other synths/options that would give similar selection and selectability of sounds. As an example, I purchased Korg's MonoPoly, which is a lovely-sounding synth and which has a nice sound-selection feature (Lead/Basss/SynthHard etc) but only one can be selected - so you still end up with 40+ basses to audition...

Another option is Big Tick Audio's Zen, which is a librarian for a range of VSTs, but I'm not sure how well it represents the actual sound character of the synths... nice idea but somehow not quite there yet.

So folks, any suggestions for synths with comprehensive range of sounds and access to them through their types and characters?
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Martin Walker » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:31 pm

Hi BillB, and welcome to the SOS Forums!

You’ve got to put Spectrasonics’ Omnisphere on your shortlist - it’s got one of the best genre-choosers on the market in my opinion:

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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby desmond » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:27 pm

Omnisphere.
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Paul Nagle » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:49 pm

+1 nothing else comes close
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby BillB » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:35 am

Thanks guys. I just re-read the SOS reviews and checked out the demo and browser videos on the Spectrasonics website - and I see what you mean. Only trouble is, I'll need an ipad to control it and maybe a new pc to cope with it! The price is maybe higher than I had in mind, but it's not hard to see that it is justified.
I will contemplate - and start saving...
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Paul Nagle » Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:18 pm

You don't need an iPad, the app is a fun extra but not essential.
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Martin Walker » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:17 pm

Agreed - but Omnisphere is the one to get nevertheless


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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby BillB » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:47 am

No no, I've seen the video, I NEED an ipad

OK, when the big guns at SOS say its the one to get, it must be so.

Thanks guys.
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Martin Walker » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:22 pm

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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Ojustaboo » Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:12 pm

I've been looking into the same thing as the OP.

Interestingly (from a point of view of making me confused) on another well known musical forum, the majority (not all) recommend Komplete over Omnisphere including a fair few who own both.
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Martin Walker » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:12 pm

NI’s Komplete is a wonderful collection of synths, but I suspect the products in the bundle may prove a little overwhelming from a standing start

I personally love Kontakt, Absynth and Reaktor, but as NI say on their product page:

“KOMPLETE 8 will supercharge your musical creativity with 27 fully-fledged products, 11,000 presets and over 100 GB of samples.”


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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby The Elf » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:20 pm

Ojustaboo wrote:I've been looking into the same thing as the OP.

Interestingly (from a point of view of making me confused) on another well known musical forum, the majority (not all) recommend Komplete over Omnisphere including a fair few who own both.
I'd take Komplete over Omnisphere, but that's from the perspective of someone who is comfortable with the background of many of Komplete's emulations. If you don't know a DX7 from a B4 then having them available as realistic and specific emulations is of moot benefit against a common interface and load of presets.
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Chevytraveller » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:23 pm

I went for Camel Audio Alchemy over either of those.. But I am a bit odd


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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Martin Walker » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:49 pm

Well of course Camel Audio's Alchemy is the most versatile of all softsynths mentioned so far, but then I would say that wouldn't I?




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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Ojustaboo » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:05 pm

Many thanks.

Think I'll go for Komplete then.
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Ojustaboo » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:12 pm

Just got the OK from my darling wife and placed my order for Komplete 8 with Scan

Going to have loads of fun on Monday

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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Ojustaboo » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:10 pm

It appears I'm also going to have clean teeth

Very odd free gift lol

Invoice Date 21 Jan 2012


Product Number NATIVE/KOMPLETE/8
Product Desc. NativeInst. Komplete 8
Quantity 1
Price Each 332.5
Serial Number xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Product Number TOOTHBRUSH/ELECTRIC
Product Desc. SCAN ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSH
Quantity 1
Price Each 0
Serial Number xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby R_A » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:14 am

Ojustaboo wrote:It appears I'm also going to have clean teeth

Very odd free gift lol

Invoice Date 21 Jan 2012

Product Number TOOTHBRUSH/ELECTRIC
Product Desc. SCAN ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSH
Quantity 1
Price Each 0
Serial Number xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Fab! Enjoy the NI products and the handy gift from SCAN
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Pete Kaine » Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:14 am

T.B.H as weird as it is out of all the freebies I've seen us do over the years that's probably one of the most handy! The boss gets offered job lots all the time of the most random bits and pieces when he's over in the far east which do tend to get sold through wholesale to other firms. However sometimes they don't shift and if after a few months they don't get moved we'll just give them away as freebies to clear warehouse space.

If you don't need a new toothbrush I suspect it'll double up nicely as a fan and keyboard cleaning implement
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Ojustaboo » Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:43 pm

Hehe, son's already decided it's his.

Now all I need to do after the 12 DVD's have finished installing is to work out which of the 11,000 included sounds to try out first
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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Martin Walker » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:24 pm

A friend of mine ordered that over Christmas, spent around five hours installing it, and then the final DVD wouldn't load and he had to get a replacement

Good luck with yours!


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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby JackG » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:00 pm

I used 'Poweriso' to create ISO images of all the komplete discs , I then mounted them all and left it to install the entire thing.

also handy to have them if you ever need to reinstall.

im gutted I didnt get a toothbrush tho...



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Re: Synth VST with comprehensive library?

Postby Ojustaboo » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:07 pm

Thanks for that tip, it installed fine, but I have tons of spare disk space, so will make iso's just incase
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