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Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Tristan Jove » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:02 pm

Any recommendations for free or cheap DAW for Windows 7. I just need something to do basic sequencing and recording, such as run a drum and bass and synth loop to improvise over.
Thanks, Tristan.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Arthur Stone » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:31 pm

KVR website is a good place to look for free/cheap software. I use Reason, Ableton Lite and in the past Mackie Tracktion but these have more functionality than you require. Perhaps it's worth investing in a 'lite' version of a major DAW which will give you the capability you currently need and the opportunity to upgrade later on if needed. Good luck.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby The Elf » Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:16 pm

Reaper is free to get started, but do the decent thing and pay them the money if you continue using it.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Resonator » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:37 pm

Mulab have a free version might be worth a go.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby HollowAxis » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:18 am

Just... Reaper.

It is so cheap it may as well be free.
I moved from Cubase to Reaper and I won't go back.

Reaper. Reaper. Reaper.

I use it on Win7 Pro 64Bit.

Always stable. Always performs.
The forums are great. The community is great.
the software is superb.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Shambolic Charm » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:05 am

another vote for Reaper here. There's nothing to touch it at that price point.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Megacurve » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:11 am

Just go straight to Reaper

http://www.cockos.com/reaper/index.php

You can even just use your onboard audio by using asio4all
http://www.asio4all.com/

And then there are the huge number of (free and other wise) VSTs for reverb, synths and everything else to make it complete.

You will eventually just get a license, but you don't need one to start...
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Tristan Jove » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:43 am

Reaper looks fantastic. How's it compare to Logic, which I use on my Apple?
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Scope » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:16 pm

Tristan Jove wrote:Reaper looks fantastic. How's it compare to Logic, which I use on my Apple?


Logic is a fully matured product with over 20 years of development behind it.
It is tried and tested and used in all the top studios, helping create thousands of hit records.
Professionals and amateurs alike love it and swear by it.
I don't know ANY professionals who don't use Logic.


Reaper is none of these things.

But unlike Logic, its FREE and its cross platform, so everyone can enjoy it.
Its basic, but fun and represents a great introduction to computer sequencing, without the headache of features offered in Cubase / Logic / ProTools etc.

I can't think of a better product that does this job.
( and that includes Audition and Garageband )

Download Reaper
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby The Elf » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:43 pm

Scope wrote:I don't know ANY professionals who don't use Logic.

I know quote a number!! Some of us don't use Macs you know.

And I know a few who use Reaper professionally too.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Steve Conslaw » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:13 pm

Acoustica Mixcraft would be my recommendation. It's easier to use than Reaper. In some ways it is similar to Apple's Garageband, but more powerful. It comes with a good selection of loops, effects and VST instruments. What I like about it is that it is very easy to create a combination preset of layered VST instruments. As I write this in mid-March 2012, Mixcraft 5 is the current version, but Mixcraft 6 is just finishing its betatesting.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Martin Walker » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:39 pm

The Elf wrote:
Scope wrote:I don't know ANY professionals who don't use Logic.
I know quote a number!! Some of us don't use Macs you know.

And I know a few who use Reaper professionally too.

Me too - this is another example of DAW snobbery :beamup:


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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Gary_W » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:03 pm

I can't speak for the pros but for me (a keen home user) Reaper is pretty much perfect.

Free to try, £40 ish to buy (with free updates that come out every couple of weeks). It's small. It's stable. It's OK to learn (as a DAW goes :)) and it's more than capable of producing great results IMO.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby k3nnyt4n » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:07 pm

i recommend reaper and presonus studio,the latter comes at many prices and i can hear more details in my mix from it than the 1st one,just my opinion :)
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby uphillbothways » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:13 pm

Scope wrote:
I don't know ANY professionals who don't use Logic.


I can only assume that you don't know any professionals.

For truly professional use, Reaper has marked advantages over the established mass-market DAWs. There's no score editing, granted, but the workflow for audio is trumped only by the high-end niche systems - the likes of SADiE, Sequoia and Pyramix.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby The Red Bladder » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:42 pm

Scope wrote:Logic is a fully matured product with over 20 years of development behind it.
It is tried and tested and used in all the top studios, helping create thousands of hit records.
Professionals and amateurs alike love it and swear by it.
I don't know ANY professionals who don't use Logic.

I know dozens and dozens of professionals and only one or two use Logic.

There are just 10 years of development behind Logic, as Apple bought it in 2002 and pretty much dumped the whole thing and just kept the name.

As for Reaper, it is just the best audio editor out there.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby jrbcm » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:45 pm

All the professionals I know use Cubase.








(Only kidding.)
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Matt Houghton » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:59 am

The Red Bladder wrote:As for Reaper, it is just the best audio editor out there.

-1

Much as I like many aspects of Reaper, the last time I updated to the latest version to use it for a full mix project (about a month ago) it didn't include a stereo audio editor, but instead allowed you to specify which external editor you wished to use. Rather like Cubase of old. Nothing wrong with that approach — I love being able to record/mix in a DAW and edit in Wavelab — but it hardly qualifies the program as being the best audio editor.

I'm also struggling, from a purely editing point of view, to understand how Reaper could be considered *better* than PT, Wavelab, SADiE, Samplitude and many more.

To the OP, though, yes, Reaper should be a good starting point. It's free to download and try, and there's a modest license fee to pay to continue using it outside the demo period. IT can do most of what Logic can (not everything) and can do some things that Logic can't.

Another option, which is capable but appears less popular, would be Zynewave Podium.

Yet another approach (not free), given that your requirements are modest, would be to purchase an affordable audio interface or handheld recorder which comes bundled with a version of Cubase, Live or Studio One (or somesuch). Eg a version of Studio One comes bundled with most (all?) Presonus interfaces, a version of Live comes with Focusrite interfaces, a version of Cubase comes with Zoom recorders/interfaces etc.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby The Red Bladder » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:15 am

Matt Houghton wrote:
The Red Bladder wrote:As for Reaper, it is just the best audio editor out there.

-1

Much as I like many aspects of Reaper, the last time I updated to the latest version to use it for a full mix project (about a month ago) it didn't include a stereo audio editor, but instead allowed you to specify which external editor you wished to use.

I realise that editing a stereo track in Reaper can be challenging, but this simple guide may help you -

1. Take stereo track

2. Drop onto time line

3. Edit.

I hope this helps!
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby onesecondglance » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:53 pm

Red is right - whilst other DAWs work on the basis of editing audio clips in an "editor", REAPER says just go ahead and do it on the track. you can do pretty much everything you would do in an editor window directly on the track.

i'm Cubase through and through, but the audio workflow in REAPER knocks the socks off anything else i've tried.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Phil Aitman » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:07 pm

Scope wrote:
Tristan Jove wrote:Reaper looks fantastic. How's it compare to Logic, which I use on my Apple?

Logic is a fully matured product with over 20 years of development behind it.
It is tried and tested and used in all the top studios, helping create thousands of hit records.
Professionals and amateurs alike love it and swear by it.
I don't know ANY professionals who don't use Logic.


Reaper is none of these things.

But unlike Logic, its FREE and its cross platform, so everyone can enjoy it.
Its basic, but fun and represents a great introduction to computer sequencing, without the headache of features offered in Cubase / Logic / ProTools etc.

I can't think of a better product that does this job.
( and that includes Audition and Garageband )

Download Reaper

WOW No-one picked up the glaring mistake in this post REAPER IS NOT FREE!!!
Trial it, love it and then pay the pittance they ask for it :)

Basic?? Not from where I'm sitting it isn't
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby macmurphy » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:45 pm

Scope wrote:

But unlike Logic, its FREE


wrong

Scope wrote:
Its basic


wrong

bollocks. i didn't see the post above :headbang:
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Gadget13769 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:25 pm

Just another suggestion for the OP, if you want something simple and genuinely free - Audacity. No, it's not a DAW in the sense of many of those products mentioned, but it may interest you (?)... http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby DAGGILARR » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:06 am

I have been looking for a simple DAW for my teenage daughter so she can have a fool about and see if she likes making music and I found this MUTOOLS any one know anything about it? Looks the part.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Martin Walker » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:09 pm

I wrote a small review of Mutools’ Luna Free some time ago in SOS, which may just help you decide:

www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep07/articles ... 0907.htm#4

Hope it helps anyway!


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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby DAGGILARR » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:44 pm

Thanks I will take a look, I have just acquired a little Maudio Ozone for her so midi keyboard and AI in one.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Tombot » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:29 pm

Got to say that although Ableton Intro costs about 90 quid, its a veritable bargain considering the warping engine and channel counts that you get. I find reaper's interface a bit clunky still, especially when dealing with plugins.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby Daniel Davis » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:47 am

Elephant in room...

If you can afford a PC and Windows 7, and instruments, then why will you not pay for a DAW?

If it is worth so little to you, why would you care which is best?

If you want something good and care about quality, reliability, ease of use, and workflow then it will cost something.
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby DAGGILARR » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:01 am

Daniel Davis wrote:Elephant in room...

If you can afford a PC and Windows 7, and instruments, then why will you not pay for a DAW?

If it is worth so little to you, why would you care which is best?

If you want something good and care about quality, reliability, ease of use, and workflow then it will cost something.

If this is your view then why are you reading this thread?
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Re: Free Or Cheap DAW For Windows 7

Postby mosso » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:59 am

The Red Bladder wrote:There are just 10 years of development behind Logic, as Apple bought it in 2002 and pretty much dumped the whole thing and just kept the name.


Apple bought Emagic and the same guys who used to code it then still do now. It's had a lick of paint and a few extra whistles and bells added but it's the same old idiosyncratic Logic. I ought to know - I've been using it for long enough. If it had changed significantly I think I would have noticed.

And for my money most of the pro's I know use Cubendo (if they're composer types) or ProTools (if they're producer types), although quite a few of them use both depending on what part of their workflow they're in.

And to answer the OP - despite it not being free Reaper is a steal at the price. I'd be hard pressed to recommend anything else at that price point or lower.
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