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Standalone SW1000XG

Postby photvid » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:57 am

Hi - I've still got an old SW1000XG kicking around. Unfortunately I can't make it to work reliably with my current PC (think it has to do with voltage of the PCI or something), getting BSODs etc. So, instead I was wondering if there's any way to make the SW1000XG operate in a standalone kind of way. You used to have these Kenton plugstation things that (I believe) had that capability. However, I haven't seen these listed 2nd hand anywhere... Also, I was hoping for a low cost solution. Any alternatives (aside from building a mini-PC or something)?

Oh, and I know most current VSTi's are so much better in sound quality blablabla...but I still sometimes miss my old XG sounds (and I actually really liked the effects too!)
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG

Postby BJG145 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:34 pm

Just get an old PC; you can pick them up for nothing.
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG

Postby photvid » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:15 pm

Yes, thought of that, and still have the components to build one, but wanted to really avoid something that requires long boot times etc and would easily integrate with my normal DAW. Basically turning it into a (near-) instant sound module. But, thx for the suggestion.
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG

Postby BJG145 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:03 pm

As you say, the Plugstation is highly scarce and there's nothing else like it, so the only alternative would be picking up a similar sound module - seems the MU100 is basically the same thing.

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Mu-100-Mu100-Module-Ancesot/dp/...
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG

Postby Goddard » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:32 pm

Unfortunately, there is no way to host (use) an SW1000XG except in a computer, as the SW1000 requires drivers in order to operate and uses the PCI bus for data/control.

The Plugstation is only for hosting PLG cards, not for hosting an SW1000XG.

This has been discussed in the SW1000 forum over on ds2416.org, so you might check over there for more info (site seems to be offline at the moment, so can't link to topic).
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG

Postby photvid » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:36 pm

Yes, had also looked into that. It's probably the only realistic option I've got. Shame though, b/c it would have been great to somehow use my SW1K!

Thanks again.
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG

Postby photvid » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:40 pm

Goddard wrote:Unfortunately, there is no way to host (use) an SW1000XG except in a computer, as the SW1000 requires drivers in order to operate and uses the PCI bus for data/control.

The Plugstation is only for hosting PLG cards, not for hosting an SW1000XG.

This has been discussed in the SW1000 forum over on ds2416.org, so you might check over there for more info (site seems to be offline at the moment, so can't link to topic).

Ah, ok, somehow I thought it could also host a SW1K. In any case, in a way academic as they don't seem to be around anymore! Thanks!
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG

Postby BJG145 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:33 pm

Just came across this old thread on a similar topic...

http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showf ... ain=974041

If it works in your current PC at all, I'd have thought it could be made to work reliably...but using a second PC as a host might not be too bad if it was sorted out properly.
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG

Postby photvid » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:06 pm

Ah, that's very insightful! Thanks for that!
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG

Postby Daniel Drummond » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:01 pm

See if they can help you: http://www.ucapps.de/ and http://www.midibox.org/ They have been using amiga comodore c64 processors, old yamaha FM chips (from soundcards) etc etc to build standalone synths and sequencers.
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG

Postby photvid » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:06 pm

Thanks Daniel - that certainly looks interesting!
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Re: Standalone SW1000XG

Postby Reiknir » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:33 pm

BJG145 wrote:Just came across this old thread on a similar topic...

<a href="/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=981349&Main=974041" target="_blank">http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=981349&Main=974041</a>

If it works in your current PC at all, I'd have thought it could be made to work reliably...but using a second PC as a host might not be too bad if it was sorted out properly.

They can be made to work in Windows vista and Windows 7 32 bit installs but no drivers exist for the 64 bit versions, and most new computers come with 64bit OEM installs, I have not tried Win8 32 bit but have heard reports that they do in fact work to a sufficient degree

Personally I ended up buying a couple of motherboards with 5 PCI slots each and filling them up with old Yamaha, Creamware, Turtle beach, egosys and Terratech cards all runing from XP, lots of fun.
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