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64bit multitrack recording software

Postby The Silent Coup » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:05 pm

Hello all,

I would like to know what software there is that can accept multiple inputs (up to 24 of them, from a MOTU 24io) and that also runs at 64bit. This would only really be used as a simple multitrack recorder and editor, but one that makes use of my 12gb RAM (PC) to ensure on drop outs etc when recording at 24/96.

I know pretty much all modern DAWs like Reaper etc. can run at 64bit, but i use Cubase 3 SX (mainly for midi and audio sequencing) and am very happy using this for the time being, despite it only using 4gb RAM max. However, due to this limitation, it is susceptible to misbehaving when recording multiple channels at high sample rates, hence the need for a dedicated multitracker. I do accept that i should upgrade to Cubase 5 or 6 to make use of their 64bit packages, but i cant be bothered with the rigmarole of J-bridging all the plugins etc at the moment (poor excuse i know!). Unless, is it possible to have the two running concurrently (32 and 64bit)?

I have my eye on Adobe Audition 6, since ive used the program since its' Cool Edit Pro 1 incarnation, but am keen on alternatives.

Any suggestions will be most welcome

Thanks

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Re: 64bit multitrack recording software

Postby The Elf » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:44 pm

I've recently begun running 64-bit Cubase and it handles all my 32-bit plug-ins with no problems at all now - I haven't done anything special. That's not a guarantee, but it shows that JBridge is probably not the 'must have' it once was.
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Re: 64bit multitrack recording software

Postby tex » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:39 pm

You'd have to make your mind up quick as Cubase 7 is out on the 5th so if you can afford the upgrade to Cubase 6/6.5 you get a grace period deal on Cubase 7. Have a look at the mixer features on YouTube to see if you like where it's gone.
There are vids here as well:
http://www.steinberg.net/index.php?id=461&L=1 and you can see pricing.
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Re: 64bit multitrack recording software

Postby Johnsy » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:54 pm

What makes you think this is a RAM issue?
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Re: 64bit multitrack recording software

Postby Scramble » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:32 pm

Yeah, may not be a RAM issue, I often recorded over 20 tracks at once using Cubase 3 with 4Gb RAM.

What's your CPU?
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Re: 64bit multitrack recording software

Postby Johnsy » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:25 am

It almost certainly isn't a RAM issue. Here, in no particular order, are just a few of the usual suspects to consider:

- How full/fragmented is your hard disk?

- What audio driver are you using, and to what buffer size is it set?

- Is your 24i/o connected via PCI or PCIe? If the former, what else is on the bus?

- Is your processor scheduling set to 'Programs' or 'Background services?'

Also, you may want to try running this:
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

As Scramble so rightly points out, more detail about your system can only help: CPU? Mobo? OS?
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Re: 64bit multitrack recording software

Postby The Silent Coup » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:21 pm

Thanks chaps (chapesses?)

Plenty of useful info here.

@Johnsy - CPU = AMD Athlon III(6 core?) - around 3ghz or so; Mobo = Asus something; Windows 7 OS;
HD is solid state drive (cant remember speeed), relatively clear and defragmented regularly; audio drivers are up-to-date; 24io is connected via PCIe (but the old version?). Im afraid PC is in the studio near Reading and im here typing in London and i cant remember these things off the top of my head.

I have never heard of "program" or "background services" for scheduling, but will look into it. I presume program is the preferred option for audio?

I should state that i was having a lot of issues with regards running the 24io correctly and after some major system overhauls, things are working a lot better although i havent had the opportunity to put it through its paces again yet.

If, as Elf says, all the 32bit plugins work effectively in a 64bit environment, then i think i will look into upgrading to Cubase 6 or 7. However, i am a great fan of Cooledit/Audition so was keen on upgrading that too, but just wanted to know what else was out there.

Thanks all

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Re: 64bit multitrack recording software

Postby Johnsy » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:10 pm

The Silent Coup wrote:
HD is solid state drive (cant remember speeed), relatively clear and defragmented regularly



Don't, whatever you do, defragment an SSD! You're just burning through write cycles for no benefit (the reason for defragging a hdd is to maintain performance by consolidating related data in one place, thereby stopping the read/write heads having to jump around all over the place. This simply doesn't apply to SSD's.)


The Silent Coup wrote:
I have never heard of "program" or "background services" for scheduling, but will look into it. I presume program is the preferred option for audio?



Actually, "Background services" is the usual recommendation, the reason being that your audio driver is a background service. Having said this, many people find it makes no difference, whilst some have apparently even found it counterproductive.


The Silent Coup wrote:Im afraid PC is in the studio near Reading and im here typing in London and i cant remember these things off the top of my head.



Ah - probably best to post again when you're at the machine in question, if you're still having problems. In the meantime, it's well worth reading any of the articles on the subject of OS optimization that Martin Walker has written over the years.
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Re: 64bit multitrack recording software

Postby Goddard » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:18 pm

Johnsy wrote:Also, you may want to try running this:
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

I'd recommend Resplendence's free LatencyMon, more info and options available:

http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon
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