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Some Russ Andrews info

Postby fay spook » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:30 pm

Read this and see what you think....

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What results were people expecting? Please be honest here
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Re: Some Russ Andrews info

Postby Folderol » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:27 pm

I was expecting bullshit.
However, I wasn't expecting that he'd actually jump the shark (and the rainbow and moon for good measure)
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Re: Some Russ Andrews info

Postby narcoman » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:22 am

fay spook wrote:Read this and see what you think....

RA tests

What results were people expecting? Please be honest here


That is a classic example of fitting a test to show a result. Fortunately he isn't stupid enough to claim it means any thing; read the What the plots don't show us section

Well designed power supplies are unaffected by radio interference "collected" in a mains cable. It's Russ Andrews ineffectual way of getting back at the legal warnings he received last year.
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Re: Some Russ Andrews info

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:37 pm

Brilliant example of RA using utter BS to try to make a point that doesn't exist, while squirming to avoid trading/advertising standards censure again.

The rise in pseudo-science BS across all products is really disturbing. What are our schools doing?

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Re: Some Russ Andrews info

Postby Gone To Lunch » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:49 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:

The rise in pseudo-science BS across all products is really disturbing. What are our schools doing?




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Re: Some Russ Andrews info

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:11 am

The plots are great. The very best 'rejection' afforded by this ludicrous mains cable amounts to a fraction over 20dB, but only at 100MHz -- BBC Radio 1 territory. If a power supply is struggling to keep that out of its DC power rails the equipment is very, very seriously flawed!

Most high-end audio gear has audio bandwidths extending to maybe 100kHz or so, and this cable introduces about 2dB of 'rejection' at that frequency. I can think of many ways of achieving far better rejection in the PSU than that at those frequencies and in far more cost-effective ways!

And the use of linear scales is wholly inappropriate and grossly misleading!

Usefully, what the plots do show is that a conventional mains lead is entirely appropriate and fit for purpose!

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Re: Some Russ Andrews info

Postby Folderol » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:50 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:The plots are great. The very best 'rejection' afforded by this ludicrous mains cable amounts to a fraction over 20dB, but only at 100MHz -- BBC Radio 1 territory. If a power supply is struggling to keep that out of its DC power rails the equipment is very, very seriously flawed!

Most high-end audio gear has audio bandwidths extending to maybe 100kHz or so, and this cable introduces about 2dB of 'rejection' at that frequency. I can think of many ways of achieving far better rejection in the PSU than that at those frequencies and in far more cost-effective ways!

And the use of linear scales is wholly inappropriate and grossly misleading!

Usefully, what the plots do show is that a conventional mains lead is entirely appropriate and fit for purpose!

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I had a good giggle at those plots too!

But gentlemen you really should get this in proportion. As a bullshitter he really is a novice. I can still remember the advert for washing powder that claimed to be better than all the rest because it contained 'WM7' - strangely I don't remember the name of the product
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Re: Some Russ Andrews info

Postby dmills » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:00 pm

I see you mr Andrews and raise you the Nutritional Supplements industry (In fact add the purveyors of Homeopathy, Chiropractors and several other subsets of alternative medicine in with the same set), or even the mobile phone trade, with its rather unique definition of "Unlimited internet".

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Re: Some Russ Andrews info

Postby The Elf » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:17 pm

dmills wrote:or even the mobile phone trade, with its rather unique definition of "Unlimited internet".
I made a formal complaint to the ASA about a certain phone company's use of the word 'unlimited', since they were setting a 'fair use' limit. The ASA took the side of the company, saying that 'unlimited' meant 'unlimited' for most users, since they'd probably never hit the limit.

I suggested that the ASA might want to contact the Oxford English Dictionary team to let them know the new accepted meaning of the word 'unlimited'.

As to Russ Andrews: he makes money based on Wizard's First Rule. People will believe things they *want* to be true.

After spending hundreds of pounds on a power cable the purchaser can't then admit they were duped, or that the cable made no difference - that would make them look like a gullible idiot. So they will defend their purchasing decision ("I don't care what you say, *I* hear a difference") and encourage yet another hopeful purchaser, who will then go on the add to the believers and the supporting voices. Get enough numbers of 'believers' and you become a heretic for disbelieving.

If you want to see this process working at high speed then attend a psychic evening - it's an education!
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Re: Some Russ Andrews info

Postby zenguitar » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:24 pm

The Elf wrote:
If you want to see this process working at high speed then attend a psychic evening - it's an education!

I don't bother going to those, much prefer Remote Viewing them from the comfort of the pub.

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Re: Some Russ Andrews info

Postby Martin Walker » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:43 pm

zenguitar wrote:
The Elf wrote:
If you want to see this process working at high speed then attend a psychic evening - it's an education!

I don't bother going to those, much prefer Remote Viewing them from the comfort of the pub.

Andy

Through the bottom of your glass I presume?


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Re: Some Russ Andrews info

Postby The Elf » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:48 pm

zenguitar wrote:
The Elf wrote:If you want to see this process working at high speed then attend a psychic evening - it's an education!
I don't bother going to those, much prefer Remote Viewing them from the comfort of the pub.
I knew you were going to say that! :
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