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24-Track Recorder Anyone?

Postby Mike Stranks » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:50 pm

Just been poking about looking at details for the Cymatic LR-16 and discovered this:

Cymatic 24-track with balanced I/O

It'll be interesting to see the price-point...
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Re: 24-Track Recorder Anyone?

Postby Mixedup » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:08 pm

Interesting. Wonder if you can record arm single tracks for overdubs on this one. Hope so...
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Re: 24-Track Recorder Anyone?

Postby Sam Inglis » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:22 am

According to Some Bloke on The Internet, they're aiming to bring it to market at $999. Which would be, what, maybe £699 over here? That'd put the cat among the pigeons.
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Re: 24-Track Recorder Anyone?

Postby Sam Spoons » Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:38 am

In my experience, if it's $999 over the pond it'll be £999 over here :headband:

With the new crop of digital live desks with multitrack recording onboard (X32, Qu16/24 etc apart from the big stuff like the iLive) I'm not sure there's much need for live MTRs any more.

I have a Mackie SDR24 which cost me around £350 with looms and drives. Great machine if a little long in the tooth. May be selling though (along with my A&H GL2200 and a few bits of outboard) to fund a new digital live desk (which, being one of those mentioned above, will fulfil my modest recording requirements).
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Re: 24-Track Recorder Anyone?

Postby Mike Stranks » Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:33 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:In my experience, if it's $999 over the pond it'll be £999 over here :headband:

With the new crop of digital live desks with multitrack recording onboard (X32, Qu16/24 etc apart from the big stuff like the iLive) I'm not sure there's much need for live MTRs any more.

I have a Mackie SDR24 which cost me around £350 with looms and drives. Great machine if a little long in the tooth. May be selling though (along with my A&H GL2200 and a few bits of outboard) to fund a new digital live desk (which, being one of those mentioned above, will fulfil my modest recording requirements).

Yup! I tend to agree...

The obvious way to go if you're doing lots of live-sound and want the occasional live recording is to go with one of the digital desks and add-on the comparatively few bits that are needed to make your multitrack. (In some cases, very few bits indeed!)

But my recent illness has caused me to take stock somewhat. If I'm brutally honest with myself the live work is slowly disappearing - save for one artist for whom I'm live-sound tech of choice - whereas ensemble recording is slowly increasing...

That development doesn't bother me particularly as I'm finding the carting about of heavy speakers et al less and less attractive as I get older. But it does mean that my current gear-set isn't totally suited to what I'm now doing. Hence the perusal of the LR-16 and the discover of this new 24-track. The end result MIGHT be a reversion to a good analogue desk where the pres are of good quality and the purchase of one of the several standalone recorders. My current digital live desk has lots of features which I scarcely use and 'add-on' recording necessitates lots of splitters, extra preamps etc.

Of course, my requirements are very specific, but I think there is still a niche market for such devices.
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Re: 24-Track Recorder Anyone?

Postby Mixedup » Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:19 pm

Mike Stranks wrote:I think there is still a niche market for such devices.

If they were to do one with record-arm per track, as on the older hard disk recorders, I don't even think the market would be that niche. While I definitely want a computer when it comes to mixing, I'd love to ditch my computer for recording sessions. iZ are still in business... but it would be nice to have a compact option that didn't cost £thousands.
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Re: 24-Track Recorder Anyone?

Postby The Korff » Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:26 pm

This new Cymatic thing does, apparently, work as an interface with iOS devices — so hook it up to an iPad and you'll have a 24-IO recorder with a touchscreen interface.
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Re: 24-Track Recorder Anyone?

Postby The Red Bladder » Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:43 pm

You can get the 16-track thing for just over £300, so the 24-track should be down to about £600 by Christmas.

Remember that it also has its own built in virtual mixer (PC only) for low latency monitoring and will run at 96kHz. This could act as a front-end for any DAW, so dig your old analogue desks out, plug in a couple of effects for some motivational reverb and you have all you need.
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Re: 24-Track Recorder Anyone?

Postby p.dakin » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:03 pm

The Red Bladder wrote:You can get the 16-track thing for just over £300, so the 24-track should be down to about £600 by Christmas.

Remember that it also has its own built in virtual mixer (PC only) for low latency monitoring and will run at 96kHz. This could act as a front-end for any DAW, so dig your old analogue desks out, plug in a couple of effects for some motivational reverb and you have all you need.


Has anyone any experience of the 16 playback device? Looks quite cool

EDIT: I see that it is also new and not available yet.
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Re: 24-Track Recorder Anyone?

Postby The Red Bladder » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:21 pm

I meant the 16 in 2 out thing, not the playback thing.
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Re: 24-Track Recorder Anyone?

Postby Music Wolf » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:06 pm

The Red Bladder wrote:I meant the 16 in 2 out thing, not the playback thing.
The playback thing (LP-16) sounds as though it might be just what I'm looking for. I'm in a 3 piece band (vocals, guitar / vocals, bass) using backing tracks played from an iPad (backing on RH, click on LH). Just having a handful of tracks would be a help, having simultaneous midi playback for controlling lights would be really interesting.
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