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Postby Stuart Churchill » Sun May 04, 2008 5:20 pm

How long do you make your fadeouts? Mine are usually about 8 - 10 seconds.
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Re: Fadeout

Postby EnlightenedHand » Sun May 04, 2008 5:33 pm

Depends on the material. As long as you don't cut short any reverb tails or sustained notes/chords then it's a matter of personal taste and what the song arrangement suggests IMO.

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Re: Fadeout

Postby John Willett » Sun May 04, 2008 6:34 pm

I do fades depending on the material and they can vary from pretty short to very long.

No hard and fast rule.

Whatever sounds best at the time and still sounds good when you listen again later.
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Re: Fadeout

Postby Nebulae » Sun May 04, 2008 8:54 pm

Fast track - fast fadeout (8-10 secs?).
Slow track - slow fadeout (longer than 10 secs easy).
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Re: Fadeout

Postby Sam York » Sun May 04, 2008 9:15 pm

Write an ending! :bouncy:
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Re: Fadeout

Postby oggyb » Mon May 05, 2008 12:44 am

Sam York wrote:Write an ending! :bouncy:
Seconded! :lol:
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Re: Fadeout

Postby gingertimmins » Mon May 05, 2008 12:57 am

someone once told me that a short fade out is an 'american' fade out and a long and subtle fade out is an 'english' fadeout. it's got something to do with radio about 40 years ago. i think it's nonsense. There should be no rule as to how long a fadeout should be. If a radio station thinks it's too long, they'll only fade it out sooner anyway!!
Just do what you think sounds good!!
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Re: Fadeout

Postby Evie McCreevie » Mon May 05, 2008 1:56 am

If you're going out on choruses I'd suggest starting your fade just after the start of the second outro chorus. Depending on tempo, get to zero after about eight bars.

If your outro has a nice instrumental solo, the fade can probably be a bit longer.

On a DAW, your fade should have a reverse S shape - i.e. gradual start, then a steepish drop for the body of the fade, then ending slowly/smoothly as it approaches zero.

All the above are suggestions, and depend on the material and your tastes.

The only solid rule is to avoid painfully slow fades which go on for ever and bore the listener.
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Re: Fadeout

Postby Stuart Churchill » Mon May 05, 2008 2:04 pm

Evie McCreevie wrote:

The only solid rule is to avoid painfully slow fades which go on for ever and bore the listener.

This is why I think 10 seconds is usually enough for most types of song - slow or fast.
I also agree with Sam - write an ending. I prefer an ending, but some songs are almost impossible to end. I've written a few which I've failed to end, then a fadeout is the only reasonable solution.
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