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Trent Reznor, The man who singlehandedly is changing the face of the music industry

Postby JamesSimpson » Mon May 05, 2008 4:32 pm

Or is he just continuing to make music worthless?

Be nice to know what the engineers think about the guy whose given away 19 tracks for free this year.

Just given away his new full length album with vocals this time. For nothing. Availiable in 24bit 96khz wav if you so wish.

Surely his guys are getting paid, Alan Moulder, Atticus Ross et all. So where does it leave lower level operations who need music sales be it mp3 or CD, to survive. Or should they just earn the money from live gigs to pay for the recording?
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Postby Andy McBain » Mon May 05, 2008 4:52 pm

Thanks for bringing this up! Unfortunately I don't really know enough about the industry to comment properly, so I won't. All I will say, wether it's relevant or not, is that the music he's giving away isn't a patch on the stuff he was selling in my opinion.
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Postby Syncratic » Mon May 05, 2008 6:11 pm

I cant remember exactly but I remember reading he still made hundreds of thousands from the limited edition albums and stuff in the first few weeks of releasing the free album, more of a publicity stunt than music for free IMO.

*just looked it up, $1,600,000 from online album sales in the first week!
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Postby JamesSimpson » Mon May 05, 2008 6:41 pm

He's just released a second album. For nothing, presumably for precisely that reason. Anybody have any thoughts on what exactly this means for the rest of us. Those of us that dont already have a fanbase of millions? Or will it just pass us all by as a one off thing done for the publicity.

I personally quite like the new album The Slip. I wasnt a massive fan of Ghosts, it began to drag by the 3rd part. Then again i really enjoyed With Teeth and most "hardcore" fans dont like that much.
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Re: Trent Reznor, The man who singlehandedly is changing the face of the music industry

Postby Kristafon » Mon May 05, 2008 7:46 pm

The only person who really single handedly changed the face in the last few years is Steve Jobs :-)

I do that like that album though, something like the fifth track in sounds like a meat grinder whirring all the way though. Reminded me of why I started liking them in the first place.
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Postby moo the magic cow » Mon May 05, 2008 8:36 pm

I'm just going to jump in and say the word 'singlehandedly' is out of place in either comparison.
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Postby Jez Corbett » Mon May 05, 2008 9:06 pm

It's easy to give away an album for free if you are already popular and successful, and will make it all back from the 'special editions', or make loads from licensing and £50+ concert tickets. For everyone else, it devalues their work. You could understand a consumer thinking "why should I pay £x for New Indie Band Y's new album when these big acts can give them away for free?".

I really don't see the internet as liberating music, especially now it's going to get completely commercialised and locked down re: the net neutrality debate.

Name me one act that has made a decent living outside of the traditional model.
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Postby talktalk » Mon May 05, 2008 9:10 pm

trent rezonr to be honest isnt really that good at music..sure he had some great song/albums but now hes reached a point which lots of artists reach...ripping themseleves off.
He seems to be giving away everything like he writes a song today and says ok thats good enough put it online give it away for free and sell it as a limited edition thing
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Re: Trent Reznor, The man who singlehandedly is changing the face of the music industry

Postby SevenIndustries » Mon May 05, 2008 9:16 pm

I think the whole discussion of this is pretty done by now,.. but my said piece has always been that if people like it enough - the artist will make money out of it in the end.

People don't download albums then just ignore the good ones; they'll go to shows, buy a t-shirt and maybe pick up a CD there.

So, nearly £60 in a single night for a band because they downloaded a CD by them a while back ain't bad.

Plus - most of the money the band makes on the road will be closer to what they get as well, so in hind sight it can be better than buying the CD in the shop for £15. The model may have changed, but the money which is being handed over just isn't in CDs anymore.
Gigs are on the increase - and merch sales are on the increase (so I'm informed by my band friends) ...

But, like assholes - everyone's got an opinion.
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Re: Trent Reznor, The man who singlehandedly is changing the face of the music industry

Postby Tomás Mulcahy » Tue May 06, 2008 10:23 am

There's more to being an artist than being good at your art- and good is a matter of opinion anyway. Trent has vision, self belief, business acumen and courage- all the other things you need to be an artist. Fair play to him, he's not whining about the changes in the industry, he's making it work for him. Note that he's also touring quite a bit- he figured that one out a few years before most other major label artists.
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