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[ConcertinaChap]

It's expensive and they don't want to sell it to anyone not building cash machines and hospital heart monitors.

Did anyone else feel a shiver of fear at the idea of Windows in a heart monitor. Cash machines I can cope with (I've seen a Windows error message on a couple of occasions on a cash machine and once a BSOD).

CC

PS on the High Sierra front, when you get a new machine it comes with the latest version of the OS whatever it is. In the event when I got my new machine last month it was a bit of an anticlimax - everything worked fine. Mind you, it's nearly a year since High Sierra came out so it nearly accords with my long-standing policy of keeping one OS version behind the current one, which works pretty well I find.

[Jadoube]

PS on the High Sierra front, when you get a new machine it comes with the latest version of the OS whatever it is. In the event when I got my new machine last month it was a bit of an anticlimax - everything worked fine. Mind you, it's nearly a year since High Sierra came out so it nearly accords with my long-standing policy of keeping one OS version behind the current one, which works pretty well I find.

Yeah +1. I am now safely running High Sierra on my newest machine. A few flavours of weirdness with some of the more eccentric bits I use in my non-musical life... but all is well with the music software\hardware.

[CS70]

Did anyone else feel a shiver of fear at the idea of Windows in a heart monitor.

Coupled with known hardware, Windows (or any codebase) really is as rock solid as one wants.

In my previous job one of my depts was operating a large amount of cash machines, and the thing that created problems was invariably the hardware - which every now and then failed in ways that the driver had not anticipated.

That said, I'm scared of the 99% of the general purpose software which runs on generic systems - because that's practically impossible to get right.

[John Willett]

PS on the High Sierra front, when you get a new machine it comes with the latest version of the OS whatever it is. In the event when I got my new machine last month it was a bit of an anticlimax - everything worked fine. Mind you, it's nearly a year since High Sierra came out so it nearly accords with my long-standing policy of keeping one OS version behind the current one, which works pretty well I find.

If you have one of the new MacBook Pros with only the 4 x USB-C sockets - get one of THESE :thumbup:



I was upset that Apple had done away with the MagLink on the new computers - but this OEM replacement is great :thumbup: A tiny MagLink adaptor that plugs securely into one of the USB-C sockets plus a replacement cable. Excellent. I got my new 2018 MacBook Pro last week and immediately ordered this cable. Works perfectly. :thumbup: and being rt.angled is better than the last version of the Apple MagLink which is straight. Oh - and it's a reversable connection unlike some of the other offerings and will take the full power needed for a 15" MBP (though mine is a 13").

[John Willett]

I have both PC and Mac - though about 8 years ago I switched to the Mac as I was getting so fed up with Windows.

After using a Mac, a PC seems so clunky in comparison.

So, I now use a Mac for almost everything.

However - my DAW is PC only :thumbdown: so I have to keep an old PC running just for the DAW. My old PC is a Samsung "lighter than Air" which a friend upgraded for me to double the size of the SSD and max out the RAM and put in Windows 10. Pretty slow to today's standards but still OK for running Sequoia 11.

[varunbkk]

There's really no other way to put this:

If you're even remotely serious about music production,
then get a Mac.

Windows 10 is a clusterf*** that is not a suitable environment for music production -
if you want overall stability and consistency with minimal interruptions esp. pesky updates.

[Hugh Robjohns]

There's really no other way to put this:
If you're even remotely serious about music production, then get a Mac.

Complete and utter nonsense!

By all means choose a mac if you want to, but windows-based systems also work perfectly well and are used daily in all manner of music production roles by a huge number of high-end professionals around the world.

I'm all for the freedom of personal platform preferences, but I don't support and won't leave unchallenged baseless didactic pronouncements like this!

H

[ConcertinaChap]

*Absolutely* what Hugh said.

CC

[Forum Admin]

Even as a committed life-long Mac user (since 1986, when we ditched Amstrad PC1512s for editorial production :D ) I have to agree totally with Hugh. Tons of pros across the globe are doing "serious" production work on their PCs.

But there is a certain je ne c'est quoi about using an Apple computer that appeals to my sensibilities and I too find Windows very "clunky" (but I use it out of the box on my family PC). They're both great tools -- just that PCs are lower cost, typically.

[CS70]

There's really no other way to put this:

If you're even remotely serious about music production,
then get a Mac.

Windows 10 is a clusterf*** that is not a suitable environment for music production -
if you want overall stability and consistency with minimal interruptions esp. pesky updates.

Clueless.

[Zukan]

I am seeing more and more pro producers using PCs running Win 10 and I made the switch based on their recommendations. I use a decent PC running Win 10 and the jump from 8 to 10 is really noticeable when working with the various DAWs.

A happy camper I be.

[Hugh Robjohns]

They're both great tools -- just that PCs are lower cost, typically.

In my experience, if you buy/build a PC of similar quality and performance to a typical Mac there won't be that much of a price difference. The PC will be a little less expensive, but not by enough for a decent holiday in the sun! :lol:

[OneWorld]

I am seeing more and more pro producers using PCs running Win 10 and I made the switch based on their recommendations. I use a decent PC running Win 10 and the jump from 8 to 10 is really noticeable when working with the various DAWs.

A happy camper I be.

Yes, so what do they do when like in my case, a Windows update leaves me with fuzzy screen fonts, which despite trawling the internet for a solution I cannot, and the 'freezing mouse/gui' do they just sit there and put up with it?

I never had these problems with Win7, and I would have been more than happy staying with Win7 except for the incessant pestering to upgrade to Win10, so I gave in, resistance is futile and have to say I was happy, until the anniversary/creator's or whatever other update it was.

I do wish Akai with their latest MPC offered streaming audio recording, I'd ditch the PC in an instant

[Forum Admin]

In my experience, if you buy/build a PC of similar quality and performance to a typical Mac there won't be that much of a price difference. The PC will be a little less expensive, but not by enough for a decent holiday in the sun! :lol:

So the £99 laptop I just bought from Office Outlet won't cut the mustard? Better cancel the summer holiday I booked... :D :D :D

[Zukan]

I hear you but I can only go by my experiences and I have learned the hard way not to install any updates until I have researched the side effects. I used to only use Macs for music until they became unaffordable and I had to make the switch. It has taken me some time but I now have a stable pc system and am not in the mood for another change.