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Re: X-Keys

Postby Amokka » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:45 pm

From another fan and long time user of x-keys and products from PI-Engineering, I find it worth mentioning that x-keys comes in different sizes.

Among other features:
- buttons can be rotated. You can orient the controller as it pleases you.
- You can make and/or print your own buttons
- There is also a foot switch/pedal

These products are originally intended for professional CAD/CAM etc. and industrial use.
They are build to last, unlike some of the other products I have tried.

IMHO one of the most important features are the ability to program each key in hardware. You can even program macros in hardware. This means that it will work regardless of the OS and software:
In other words: if your device works with a normal USB keyboard, x-keys will also work.

This reply may look like an ad, but I am just a fan and in no way affiliated or associated with x-keys or their resellers.
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Re: X-Keys

Postby The Elf » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:08 am

ConcertinaChap wrote:As I went Amazooming around this one appealed to me. Every button its own LCD display. The software not only customises the buttons it customise their appearance too.
Owe you a drink for this one, mate. Ideal as a stage controller for Cantabile.
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Re: X-Keys

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:41 am

I believe a full SOS review is being organised...

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Re: X-Keys

Postby The Elf » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:58 am

Good move. A lot of the information about the Stream Deck is very off-putting, since it seems to assume that we all want to play video games, stream our efforts to the world, video the top of our head and chat as we do it. There's not a lot of information out there that doesn't assume this! Once you get past all that nonsense this is a really good generic control interface, especially for stage work.
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Re: X-Keys

Postby ConcertinaChap » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:05 am

That was the impression I got from reading the manual. Can't afford it right now having spent all my spare bucks on a new machine but well up my list of things to get. I'm a sucker for things that look that cool.

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Re: X-Keys

Postby ManFromGlass » Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:55 pm

ConcertinaChap wrote:I'm a sucker for things that look that cool.

+1 especially if they come close to doing what the marketing dept says they can!
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Re: X-Keys

Postby OneWorld » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:47 pm

Alba wrote:
OneWorld wrote:I have been trying to adapt an ordinary Wireless USB Qwerty Keyboard to sort of mimmick this, especially a foot controller, so I can be playing guitar and start record/stop/loop/play/delete/undo/return to zero etc with my foot but my electronics knowledge isn't up to the task

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGr3lvBtMV0

Thanks for that, that's the sort of idea I had in mind but with a smaller box and bigger switches. I did get hold of an ancient midi switch panel but they don't seem to make them these days eg a midi floor pedal with just switches which can be config'd to control common commands. It's great to be able to map a macro in Cubase for example such that one press with the foot stops a recording, undoes the last take, moves to left locator and then re-records

I did get a Behringer FC1010, but that was sort of over egging the pudding, too big. I'll get there.

Another gizmo I use is a PC remote, the ones with the bigger keys, I can be standing 20 foot away from the PC, recording a voice take at the mic, and I have a fully functioning transport with UNDO/PLAY/STOP/RECORD/PAL/FF/RW/DELETE/LEFT LOC/RIGHT LOC etc in the palm of my hand and the thing only cost a fiver!
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Re: X-Keys

Postby Sam Spoons » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:44 pm

How easy is it to set up a Stream Deck Mini to control Reaper transport functions, and, maybe record arm for a limited number of tracks?
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Re: X-Keys

Postby The Elf » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:09 am

The Stream Deck can generate any hotkey you can imagine, so as long as there's a key command to do it you should be fine.

But I've not used the mini version, so caveat.
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Re: X-Keys

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:54 am

Sounds like what I need then, thanks.
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Re: X-Keys

Postby OneWorld » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:15 am

Although I have both an ICON QCON, and MCU Pro (under the desk collecting dust and for sale) I wanted instant access to any track and settled on a Novation Launchpad. Although meant to be an Ableton controller I used the Generic Remote to set up the Launch pad and WOW I have 64 pads + 16 other 'buttons' I use the buttons down the right hand side for transport and common stuff (UNDO, DELETE, RTLL etc)

I have set it up to access any of 32 audio/VSTi tracks, 16 MIDI and the other 16 pads giving me instant access to Fade IN/OUT, Bounce, INsert Silence etc etc etc

It works a treat, all I need now is a Faderport or Alphatrack, X-Control One and I can see the Icon becoming redundant, I like it but don't like having to constantly page from Bank to Bank.

The cost of the LaunchPad? £30 off eBay (it came without software)
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Re: X-Keys

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:14 pm

I use my X32 Compact for an interface and just need a simple device for transport controls and maybe track arming so the Stream Deck Mini looks perfect. Anything bigger would take up too much desk space. I may yet not go there as I can assign some of the buttons on the X23 to transport control via midi but the Stream Deck looks more versatile (and, more importantly, has LCD labelling, worth the money for the cool factor alone :D ).
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