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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby blinddrew » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:33 pm

Depending on the nature of the pub there might be something that you could take off the wall and temporarily and replace with your boundary mic?

Which reminds me, I need to get mine back!
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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby forumuser915213 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:55 pm

Btw... To my list of reasons for recording, I'd add the benefit of giving non-readers or hesitant readers an opportunity to get familiar with the tunes.

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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby Mike Stranks » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:38 pm

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Mike Stranks wrote:Use them like spaced omnis and fasten them onto the wall... back in the day the preferred method was onto a piece of board about 300/400mm square and then to hang that like a picture. Space to taste...

I remember that - I seem to remember people bought them from Tandy's.

I used them to make handy left hand bugs for melodeons.

Handy idea though. I wonder what a pub landowner will think of me hanging things on their walls...

A good point, but if the board's big enough - ie nearer 400/450 - there's no reason why you couldn't put the boards on stands and put the stands as close as possible - eg round-base stands - to the walls.

I know as well as anyone the compromises that have to be made when recording 'live', but I'd be a little concerned at placing omnis or cardioids too near walls, because of reflections. But maybe that's just me.
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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby Sam Inglis » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:29 pm

Well, in theory, if you placed an omni right up against the wall it would become a boundary mic, no?
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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby Mike Stranks » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:09 pm

Sam Inglis wrote:Well, in theory, if you placed an omni right up against the wall it would become a boundary mic, no?

Of course! :oops:

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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby forumuser915213 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:18 am

That too might not go down a storm ;-)
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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby Sam Spoons » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:58 am

Blue tack maybe?
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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby Sam Spoons » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:59 am

Or does the pub has wall lights?
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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby Mike Stranks » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:58 am

I was looking at a pic of the much-respected (and modded!) Tandy PZMs last night and was reminded that they incorporate an arrangement for fastening them vertically...

... and browsing round other topics in the forum I've discovered that there's an impending magazine article about recording with spaced omnis including, I think, the use of spaced PZMs...

Watch that space...!
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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby Sam Spoons » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:28 pm

Am I missing something (I had a couple back in the day) but, if memory serves, the vertical mounting device consisted of a hole in the backplate to hang them on a nail? :sick:
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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby Music Wolf » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:50 pm

That's how I remember them

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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby forumuser915213 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:26 pm

That's what I remember too.

Thinking on, and leaving aside the question of how to record the session in the difficult long room, I've been thinking about trying omni-mid mid-side. using just single mic stand has an appeal - though the tendency to catch a small number of voices more than others is might prove a disadvantage.

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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby Mike Stranks » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:18 pm

That's what I said... this is a technical forum after all! :lol:
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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby Mike Stranks » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:21 pm

forumuser915213 wrote:That's what I remember too.

Thinking on, and leaving aside the question of how to record the session in the difficult long room, I've been thinking about trying omni-mid mid-side. using just single mic stand has an appeal - though the tendency to catch a small number of voices more than others is might prove a disadvantage.

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That's interesting... I'd been wondering about an MS config... But I do recall a conversation that the Elf and I had a while back now where we scratched our heads about the effectiveness of an omni as a Mid - not that either of us had tried it then... don't know if he has since...
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Re: Recording in pubs

Postby forumuser915213 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:59 pm

I may give it a go and report. Recording pub sessions using mid-side using an omni must be a bit of a niche activity, but someone has to try it...

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