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Postby The Elf » Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:50 pm

This one has got me thinking...

I like the idea and I like the price of the H3-VR. I like the fact that it can record to its own SD card, but...

I would like to record the raw audio to my mixer and do all the fancy decoding later - it has to be recorded in sync with the other audio the mixer is capturing.

Can it be done?
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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby ConcertinaChap » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:10 pm

Sounds like it possibly might be. From Zoom's website: "the H3-VR’s audio interface mode turns it into a USB 360 mic for your computer". You'd have to have something like the Mac's aggregate device so as to be able to use it alongside your normal audio interface, though.

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Edit: I was right. From the manual: In 4 ch Ambisonics mode input signals 1–4 are sent as converted tracks 1–4 in this 4-in/2-out connection mode for Windows/Mac. To use with Windows, download the driver from the ZOOM website (http://www.zoom.co.jp). The bus power of the connected device will be used.
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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby Mike Stranks » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:23 pm

Hi Elf!

I posted in the NT-SF1 thread a couple of days ago that some user reviews are now finding their way online. One guy who clearly knows about things audio expressed his disappointment with the quality of the captured sound... 'like cheap Chinese SDCs' was his verdict.

Hugh is due to be reviewing the Zoom; might be best to await his opinion...
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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby The Elf » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:34 pm

Thanks, guys. This is really just for live ambience/audience reaction, so sound quality is not so critical for my purpose, but recording to a separate computer is a non-starter. It HAS to feed to the mixer that is recording the rest of the mix - I've found that the faff of getting separate recordings sufficiently synced is a hassle and overhead I'm not happy to continue.
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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby ConcertinaChap » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:14 pm

Sorry, didn't notice the mixer bit. In that case I think you're out of luck. The only analogue outs it has are both stereo.

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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby ManFromGlass » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:54 pm

aggregate device on a Mac has always been unreliable for me. I gave up on it after hours of researching a solution and comments from other composers. Your mileage may vary.
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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby Mike Stranks » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:53 am

And just to throw another spanner in the works - sorry Elf - for the ambisoniscs to decode properly you'd have to be sure that all the mixer gains were at precisely the same level. Not sure that the Livetrak can give you that precision as there won't be a gain-gaining feature like there is on the better location multitrack recorders.

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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:12 pm

Mike Stranks wrote:Hugh is due to be reviewing the Zoom; might be best to await his opinion...

I'd had an email conversation with Chris Korff about reviewing this before Xmas, but for a variety of reasons I gather it has actually gone to a different reviewer and is currently in progress...

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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby ConcertinaChap » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:20 pm

Thanks for the update

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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby Mike Stranks » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:44 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:
Mike Stranks wrote:Hugh is due to be reviewing the Zoom; might be best to await his opinion...

I'd had an email conversation with Chris Korff about reviewing this before Xmas, but for a variety of reasons I gather it has actually gone to a different reviewer and is currently in progress...

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Hmmm... not all reviewers are the same. Let's hope we get a technical review of actual S/N ratios and noise floors etc. That's what most of us who've commented here are interested in. Perhaps if the 'other' reviewer is not equipped to do such tests it could be sent on to Hugh for a technical analysis.
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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby Wonks » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:46 pm

Or at least an inset technical review piece.
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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby ConcertinaChap » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:19 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:I'd had an email conversation with Chris Korff about reviewing this before Xmas, but for a variety of reasons I gather it has actually gone to a different reviewer and is currently in progress...

Did anything come of this?

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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby ConcertinaChap » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:54 pm

Anything at all?

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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby The Korff » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:28 pm

It's on my list of things to chase up! Will report back soon...
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Re: Zoom H3-VR

Postby ConcertinaChap » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:38 pm

Thanks.

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