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Criticisms Please

Postby Licchavi » Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:54 pm

Hi, I am not a professional sound engineer and did some recording recently. I have posted a link below to a clip of one of the pieces recorded. If you would like please post any thoughts or suggestions you have. I already have some misgivings about a number of things I did but woud love to hear what the SOS community think.


Thanks!


https://youtu.be/86ruvMzXxy0
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Re: Criticisms Please

Postby Dave B » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:22 pm

To my ears, the vocals are a little overpowering in the mix and generally I'd use a little more automation to level things out a bit.

But then I'm not an opera kind of guy... ;)
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Re: Criticisms Please

Postby The Elf » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:28 pm

I find this a bit 'shrieky', but I am far from being a fan of this type of voice. The piano sounds a bit lost. There seems to be some left bias in the recording, unless it's my ears today.
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Re: Criticisms Please

Postby Licchavi » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:35 pm

Dave B wrote:, the vocals are a little overpowering in the mix

The Elf wrote:I find this a bit 'shrieky'

The Elf wrote:The piano sounds a bit lost

Thanks for the comments. Its about right I think. The space was huge and very reverberant and I had a lot of troouble balancing the mike placements. The vocal mics ended up too close and the piano ended up sounding a bit washed and was, because of that difficult to balance in the mix. Might again.
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Re: Criticisms Please

Postby blinddrew » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:50 pm

Only had a listen on my laptop and headphones but Just a quick note to say that I agree with the above - but I didn't think it was bad at all. :)
I wonder if, given the strength of the vocal you could give her a bit more space away from the mic? Appreciate that might cause issues with too much room, but possibly worth a try?
It's worth remembering that you can really use the benefit of the available dynamic range in music like this, no-one is expecting this to be heavily limited and cranked out on commercial radio. :)
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Re: Criticisms Please

Postby Tim Gillett » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:45 pm

Licchavi wrote:
Dave B wrote:, the vocals are a little overpowering in the mix

The Elf wrote:I find this a bit 'shrieky'

The Elf wrote:The piano sounds a bit lost

Thanks for the comments. Its about right I think. The space was huge and very reverberant and I had a lot of troouble balancing the mike placements. The vocal mics ended up too close and the piano ended up sounding a bit washed and was, because of that difficult to balance in the mix. Might again.


I feel the voice is captured well. If this was a live stage performance the piano would normally be behind the singer and so some extra reverb in the piano can sound convincing, but here I feel the piano sounds too far back in comparison, having much more room reverberation. I would try micing the piano closer to reduce that reverb. Reverb is easy to add later but harder to remove.
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Re: Criticisms Please

Postby Licchavi » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:47 am

thanks for the comments guys. I am going to carefully try to remix it and see what happens
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Re: Criticisms Please

Postby DC-Choppah » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:39 am

That was beautiful.

I was moved..

She nailed it.

You nailed it.


If I was mixing this, there is no 'problem' that I would try to fix. I would leave it as is.

Love the sound of her voice.

I like the space between the simple piano and her voice. Keeps her up front.
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Re: Criticisms Please

Postby Ariosto » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:44 am

DC-Choppah wrote:That was beautiful.

I was moved..

She nailed it.

You nailed it.


If I was mixing this, there is no 'problem' that I would try to fix. I would leave it as is.

Love the sound of her voice.

I like the space between the simple piano and her voice. Keeps her up front.

I certainly do not disagree with this comment. Having the singer about one foot further back from the mic and a slightly more focussed piano sound would have just edged it up a notch. Very good singer, excellent voice and well done dramatically as well by her.
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Re: Criticisms Please

Postby Departure Beats » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:56 am

Not a big music expert or an opera fan

But this sounded cool. She has beautiful voice and you did a nice job.
Cant disagree with comments tho

But overall this is great :)
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Re: Criticisms Please

Postby Licchavi » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:40 am

Thanks for your kind comments.

DC-Choppah wrote:I was moved..

The only good reason for making music! thanks man. Means a lot.

She was amazing. Juts a note, she wasn't acting because all we needed to do was to catch the audio; the emotion you see just what happened naturally while recording.

...and its also a fantastic piece of music.
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Re: Criticisms Please

Postby OneWorld » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:00 pm

DC-Choppah wrote:That was beautiful.

I was moved..

She nailed it.

You nailed it.


If I was mixing this, there is no 'problem' that I would try to fix. I would leave it as is.

Love the sound of her voice.

I like the space between the simple piano and her voice. Keeps her up front.

I'm inclined to agree, what a singer. And if I were to make any critique then yes bring the piano up a tad, if only so I can copy some of the chords and phrasing ;-)
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Re: Criticisms Please

Postby Still Vibrations » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:27 pm

Agree with the above about the piano. Her voice is fantastic, Respighi is a wonderful composer, and mezzo-soprano is probably my favourite classical voice.
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