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Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 1:21 pm
by Smellthevalve
On a side note it would be nice if sennheiser could make a lower price version of the md421 without the switched filter :?:

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 4:12 pm
by mpsjazz
Sam Spoons wrote:The problem with that is the change in timbre caused by the difference in proximity effect, little in the case of the trumpet and lots when singing close up. If, coincidentally, the trumpet needs a lot less bottom than the voice then it may work but my gut feeling is that the opposite would be more likely.

Yes you are correct. The trumpet does
sound too bright from a distance, so I try playing into the side instead, where I get reduced volume and a darker sound. But it's a bit hit-and-miss, getting the balance right.

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 5:04 pm
by Sam Spoons
If you have the input channels available two mics is definitely a better solution. A decent vocal mic will handle the high dB level from the trumpet fine and allow you to use the proximity effect to warm the sound up but it will need far less gain than the one used for vocals.

With what you have I'd use the 845 for vox as it's more directional and will reject stage sound better and, given that it will need a fair bit of gain applied, will be better at rejecting feedback and the 815 for trumpet, cardioid but will need much less gain so spill won't be as much of an issue.

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 5:20 pm
by mpsjazz
Sam Spoons wrote:... With what you have I'd use the 845 for vox as it's more directional and will reject stage sound better and, given that it will need a fair bit of gain applied, will be better at rejecting feedback and the 815 for trumpet, cardioid but will need much less gain so spill won't be as much of an issue.

Thanks for your thoughts. I've started using the e815S as an instrumental mic. Let's see how I get on, over time.

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:05 pm
by Sam Spoons
Sounds good :thumbup: .

You were also concerned about the 845 being dull with your voice and needing to "whack up the treble"? It shouldn't need a huge amount of eq to sound decent so, unless you 845 really is faulty (unlikely but possible) it sounds like you have other issues with the rig or, as you suggest, your hearing (an occupational hazard unfortunately). Getting both checked might be worthwhile.

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 10:06 am
by Mike Stranks
Smellthevalve wrote:On a side note it would be nice if sennheiser could make a lower price version of the md421 without the switched filter :?:

They had the MD422 - still available second-user - which was a smaller and cheaper (I think) version) but is still had the switched filter. They can still be had for reasonable money as people don't know them like the 421 and don't realise how good they are!

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 2:13 pm
by John Willett
ConcertinaChap wrote:
John Willett wrote:Oh yes - but I won that one in a competition, so didn't actually buy it

Winning a mic in a competition? I thought that was illegal under the Small Desirable Items - Unrealistic Expectations Act of 1932!

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:D

It was at Musikmesse, Frankfurt a few years ago - "leave your card and win a mic." - It was my card they pulled out an I won the mic.

It was actually a very good. LDC mic with an excellent SOS review, but I mostly used SDCs and never used it - so I sold it on at a good price for someone who would value it a lot more than me.

I actually also won a DPA T-shirt (or polo shirt) - but after they informed me I had won it, they never sent me anything at all. :thumbdown:

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 7:02 pm
by Mike Stranks

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 7:32 pm
by Sam Spoons
That's a very cool looking mic Mike :D

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 9:25 am
by blinddrew
It's only a fleshwound!

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 10:07 am
by Hugh Robjohns

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 11:55 am
by Aural Reject
John Willett wrote:I actually also won a DPA T-shirt (or polo shirt) - but after they informed me I had won it, they never sent me anything at all. :thumbdown:

They heard you were going to sell it ;)

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 12:05 pm
by John Willett
Aural Reject wrote:
John Willett wrote:I actually also won a DPA T-shirt (or polo shirt) - but after they informed me I had won it, they never sent me anything at all. :thumbdown:

They heard you were going to sell it ;)

No - I would have worn it - I still wear all my old Sennheiser ones - including the UK Eurovision one. :thumbup:

Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 11:01 pm
by ConcertinaChap
John Willett wrote:including the UK Eurovision one. :thumbup:

Have you no shame?

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Re: Do I Need New Microphones?

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 10:11 am
by John Willett
ConcertinaChap wrote:
John Willett wrote:including the UK Eurovision one. :thumbup:

Have you no shame?

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Says concertina man ;) :bouncy:

Actually, I was in the audience of the Eurovision Song Contest in Birmingham, I went to the backstage party afterwards and met several of the contestants. I managed to say a few words with the Slovak contestant in her own language. :thumbup: