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Postby Ian Shaw » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:23 am

Hi Guys,

Hope I'm in the right forum, but I saw other posts about quad gear so here goes:

I have an old quad system in the loft given to me by my Dad before he passed away some years ago. It's a 405 power amp, 33 pre amp & an FM tuner from memory. My old man was a bit of a HIFI buff & he also had those huge electrostatic speakers the size of radiators at one point. They took up most of the lounge much to my Mum's dismay.

I did set it up & test it a few years back & although it worked it all sounded very bassy & no treble.

So I'm just wondering what to do with it really. I see the power amps are quite popular in studios, so I could sell it, but the FM tuner? does anyone really listen to FM anymore.

I could get it all serviced assuming quad are still in existence and use it myself but I already have a good Arcam system & tbh usually listen to stuff via Spotify these days. Obviously, it has some nostalgic importance to me but seems a waste just sitting there not being used.

Any suggestions?

Ian

PS Anyone remember the test record that came with Quad systems with tube trains & aircraft sounds to test the speakers had been set up correctly?
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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby ef37a » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:48 am

Don't say that about FM! Any excuse and they will shut the transmitters down! (FM will actually feed into a post I am about to make in SOS, not sure where atmo?)

If you are not going to use the system you would be best I think to flog it on the Bay. The 405 especially might need a service, especially if it is an early one. If Quad are still have the same customer care as of old (shared with CTH and others of that era) they will have the ser # on file and can advise you.

Hugh said in another post that the 33 pre amp is noisier than modern gear? No doubt it could be modded but why bother?

I have an Arcam system! Alpha 6+ amplifier and an Arcam CD unit (that plays silly buggers but eventually works ok!). Feeds a pair of Mission 770s. All shoved in a tiny spare room atmo and I need to get it sorted for my old(er) age.

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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby CapnStratagee » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:10 am

There is still quite an avid QUAD fanbase out there.

QUAD themselves are still in existence and provide good customer service, so you have a couple of options really:

1. Send it to QUAD for a service
2. Upgrade it, take a look at DADA electronics http://www.dadaelectronics.eu/Home.htm

If you have a facebook account I recommend the british hifi appreciation page. A post on there would give you plenty of advice and interest.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/484246431649826/

I run a 44 pre amp into a 405/2 power amp. The amp was serviced not so long ago and the only upgrade I have done is to add a Tisbury phono stage as the 44 phono is useable but can be improved. That's if you are into vinyl.

By all accounts, the QUAD upgrades bring the amp upto modern standards, but the amp itself is a classic innovative design for it's time - current dumping and all that. It was designed to serve the electrostatic speakers you mention. The 405/ESL combination is stuff of dreams, your father had good taste.

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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby cyrano.mac » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:12 pm

See what an ESL63 is capable of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ypMzQfr92Q
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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:07 pm

It's all been said... there is a huge demand for all your components -- the 33 preamp, 405 amp and fm3 (or fm4) tuner -- and they will sell for good prices almost regardless of their condition to vintage high buffs.

If you want to keep and use them yourself they will need to be checked and serviced before hooking them up to your favourite speakers. The big electrolytic capacitors in the 405 will probably need replacing and the rest of the units might need some TLC too. As has been said, the current Quad company in Huntingdon will do it for a good price, but there also several independent specialists that will do it too, and they can also apply a range of worthwhile performance upgrades -- especially to the 405 and 33.
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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby Ian Shaw » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:30 am

Thanks for the replies.

i'm gonna get it all out of the loft this weekend & hook it up to see what's working, & contact Quad & see roughly what it would cost to get to serviced before I make a decision.

ef37a wrote:Don't say that about FM! Any excuse and they will shut the transmitters down! (FM will actually feed into a post I am about to make in SOS, not sure where atmo?)

I have an Arcam system! Alpha 6+ amplifier and an Arcam CD unit (that plays silly buggers but eventually works ok!). Feeds a pair of Mission 770s. All shoved in a tiny spare room atmo and I need to get it sorted for my old(er) age.
Dave.

Sounds your Arcam system is in a similar state to mine! Also, to my ears ,FM still sounds better than the digital stuff!

cyrano.mac wrote:See what an ESL63 is capable of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ypMzQfr92Q" target="phpbbpopup

Those are the ones my dad had. For some reason his Mantovani records still sounded terrible on them :lol:
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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:38 am

I had an Elkie Brooks album that was almost unlistenable on the Kef 104s, very harsh and brittle in the high mid :thumbdown:
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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby Arpangel » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:46 am

These units still sound very good indeed, and are well worth using, I have a 405 and a 33 preamp. The 33 has a lovely sound, quite rich and smooth, the perfect thing for taming the high end on some modern CD players.
Quad I've found aern't easy to contact at all, they are now part of the IAG group, and customer service has gone down hill a bit. I wanted some leads made up for mine, and ended up using an independent chap. Once you could speak to Quad on the telephone, not anymore.
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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby Martin Walker » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:48 pm

Ian Shaw wrote:Thanks for the replies.

i'm gonna get it all out of the loft this weekend & hook it up to see what's working, & contact Quad & see roughly what it would cost to get to serviced before I make a decision.


Hi Ian,

If this hasn't been switched on for years then do be careful:

Hugh Robjohns wrote:If you want to keep and use them yourself they will need to be checked and serviced before hooking them up to your favourite speakers. The big electrolytic capacitors in the 405 will probably need replacing.

There's a small possibility that one of these electrolytic capacitors might go bang when you first switch on :beamup:


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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby ef37a » Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:04 pm

"Also, to my ears ,FM still sounds better than the digital stuff!"

^ Probably all that inter-band jiggery-pokery Hugh mentioned in another thread!

I think it is ALL digital now Ian.

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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby Ian Shaw » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:19 pm

Martin Walker wrote:
There's a small possibility that one of these electrolytic capacitors might go bang when you first switch on :beamup:

Martin

Thanks, Martin, I'll look forward to that!
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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby Ian Shaw » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:15 pm

So, it's out of the loft.

It's actually a 405-2 power amp, 34 pre-amp & FM4 tuner. All in original boxes with manuals.

Not sure if it's got all those din connectors though. If you see a puff of smoke it's probably me!
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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:01 pm

Works for me, and leaves me slightly green with envy............
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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby Ian Shaw » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:10 pm

Well ,it all lights up as it should. All the connecting leads are present & correct. I'll find a better way of posting a pic once I've tried it out
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Apologies, works on a different browser for me. :)
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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby Martin Walker » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:13 pm

Wow - still give me goosebumps seeing that 'so individual' Quad gear after all these years :beamup:


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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:31 pm

FWIW I still own that other '70s classic a Sugden A48 (yup the orange and brown one.....) :D

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Re: Quad HIFI Ideas?

Postby Ian Shaw » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:55 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:FWIW I still own that other '70s classic a Sugden A48 (yup the orange and brown one.....) :D

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Touché. Anyone beat that?!

Martin Walker wrote:Wow - still give me goosebumps seeing that 'so individual' Quad gear after all these years :beamup:


Martin

I remember going some HIFI specialist with my Dad to demo the quad setup with the electrostatics & the guy put on my favourite Genesis album- Trick of the Tail, I think- I was pretty much pinned back in the chair by the volume, but ,man, what a sound!
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