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Re: Analogue versus Digital - Radio 4

Postby Kwackman » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:29 am

But, to show some balance there was also the Austin Allegro... :D
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Re: Analogue versus Digital - Radio 4

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:43 am

:lol: :bouncy: :clap:
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Re: Analogue versus Digital - Radio 4

Postby Brian M Rose » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:12 pm

A very interesting programme. One thing that changed (Or perhaps didn't change) when 'film' went 'digital' was the idea that you could do as many takes as you wanted, or just let the tape (as it was then) run.
It really didn't work. And yes, you could fix it in post, but post production became very, very expensive. Time was money - lots of money.
I feel that it also affected performance, badly. Everything became too sloppy.
Having said that, for audio editing would I go back to analogue tape? No way!
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Re: Analogue versus Digital - Radio 4

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:36 pm

Wow.. that was half an hour of my life I won't get back... perhaps I'm not the target audience! :ugeek: And I really could have done without all the data-reduction artefacts (auditioned on iPlayer).
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Re: Analogue versus Digital - Radio 4

Postby kingmoot » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:14 pm

Brian M Rose wrote:One thing that changed (Or perhaps didn't change) when 'film' went 'digital' was the idea that you could do as many takes as you wanted, or just let the tape (as it was then) run.
It really didn't work. And yes, you could fix it in post, but post production became very, very expensive. Time was money - lots of money.

Yes that's a very good point and probably applies to all art forms. Too much choice can be utterly crippling, and in writing music in particular, the options we have now are potentially endless.

A couple of years ago, whilst writing demos for an album project, I limited myself to five pre-selected sounds:
- A lead synth sound
- A single bass sound
- A single hi-hat sound
- A single kick drum sound
- A bit of white noise

....and knocked out 30 demos in 30 days. It was immensely productive and I put that down entirely to working with a limited palette of sounds, and putting myself in the starting position of a blank page with a set of sounds that were 'okay' enough to write with.
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Re: Analogue versus Digital - Radio 4

Postby Ariosto » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:44 pm

I thought the programme a huge waste of time and was utter rubbish. It was all pointless, the only useful comment was for about 10 seconds which said that having paper and pen along with any equipment digital or analogue "was useful."

This is the sort of messing around in the rubble to try and fill out time and make a programme which the BBC seems happy to waste money, time and recourses on, which makes me wonder why the government allows the licence fee to increase so frequently. What is happening to quality programmes on the radio?
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Re: Analogue versus Digital - Radio 4

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:50 pm

Yep... Glad it wasn't just me that thought it was rather poor. :cry:
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Re: Analogue versus Digital - Radio 4

Postby Arpangel » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:14 am

Ariosto wrote:I thought the programme a huge waste of time and was utter rubbish. It was all pointless, the only useful comment was for about 10 seconds which said that having paper and pen along with any equipment digital or analogue "was useful."

This is the sort of messing around in the rubble to try and fill out time and make a programme which the BBC seems happy to waste money, time and recourses on, which makes me wonder why the government allows the licence fee to increase so frequently. What is happening to quality programmes on the radio?

Yes, and can we do away with programs that pander to to the lowest common denominator, talk down, and patronise the listeners, with presenters that sound as though they're laughing at the same time as talking, like Tony Blackburn used to do.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z2myFLUDB74

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Re: Analogue versus Digital - Radio 4

Postby Terrible.dee » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:13 am

Analog is a distinct flavor, it is entirely different from digital, the differences, to my ears are obvious. Thus, I record using tape and keep all signals analog until the last possible minute (Preferably, when making a digital reproduction of an all-analog mixdown)

If you can't hear the difference, I don't know what to tell you, the difference is important enough to me to be crucial. And to spend thousands of dollars on. Digitally recorded music does not sound good to me.

For the record: I've been signed to major labels twice, a major indie and many other indies. I've produced/engineered/mixed records for artist's releases on Epitaph, Network and other well-known labels. I've co/written with there same artists and MANY MANY more. I ditched the producing/engineering/mixing exactly BECAUSE I do not enjoy the sound or process of digital recording. I compose cues (ordered to spec from the production company) for most reality shows on SPIKE TV, DISCOVERY and others....all the "Real House Wives of.." and "Top Chef: "..." shows are me (And a crew of other guys, they probably use other companies as well, but our cue orders keep coming) This is the only place in my work where I record digitally, it's a speed game, so I have to,

So, decide for yourself whether I may know what I'm talking about or not.
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