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Re: RTFM

Postby blinddrew » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:56 am

Yep, Windows10 has been pretty solid for me too. The only quibble I have is that the major updates tend to knock out use of my focusrite compressor software, but focusrite have always been quick to re-authorise me when it happens.

Going back a couple of posts to the discussion about certain instruments / systems facilitating experimentation...
The latest update from Martin on this thread https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/view ... ead#unread (Friday 21 Jun) has a video featuring a chap who's created a bunch of instruments. In it he makes a really interesting point that if you give someone a guitar, they might say, 'oh I don't play guitar.'
But if you give them a unique instrument, that no-one knows how to play, well they can just get started - because there is no established 'way' to play an no established music for it.
I think that would be very liberating.
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Re: RTFM

Postby John Willett » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:36 am

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ef37a wrote:Why then does Java, and Firefox for just two systems seem to have updates every couple of weeks?


I abandoned Firefox in favour of Opera, FF was updating every few days, hardly worth the bother

Though, from what I am reading, Firefox seems to be the most secure of them all now. :thumbup:
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Re: RTFM

Postby Folderol » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:38 am

Where I used to work it was a continual source of frustration (and I expect still is).
The worst of all was one occasion half way though doing the company VAT returns, the accountant went to the loo, only to find when she got back Windows had decided to do a major update... for several hours :(

Bear in mind none of the office staff are particularly computer savvy, and just want to be able to use the system as normal users.
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Re: RTFM

Postby John Willett » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:45 am

John Willett wrote:
OneWorld wrote:
ConcertinaChap wrote:
ef37a wrote:Why then does Java, and Firefox for just two systems seem to have updates every couple of weeks?


I abandoned Firefox in favour of Opera, FF was updating every few days, hardly worth the bother

Though, from what I am reading, Firefox seems to be the most secure of them all now. :thumbup:

Interestingly - Firefox had two updated this morning.

First it upodated to 67.0.3 and, ten minutes later, updated to 67.0.4
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Re: RTFM

Postby ConcertinaChap » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:20 am

I'm on the Firefox Extended Support Release sequence. You don't have half so many updates and you don't get the very latest features. What you do get is enhanced stability plus immediate updates for serious bugs like the zero day exploit I mentioned earlier. So, no updates for me today, I'm still on 60.7.2esr which is the current ESR version. I'd recommend it if you like Firefox and value stability.

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Re: RTFM

Postby OneWorld » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:15 pm

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envamt wrote:OMG, these grief stories about Win10 updates just keep coming.
That's because those of us for whom it's been absolutely no problem don't write our stories on the net.

Yep that's ok it you got a simple setup but try throwing the following at it.....

Virus TI, Yamaha MOXF, Arturia Beatstep, Novation Launchpad, U-Control UC-33, ICON QCON, Focusrite Liquid 56, Roland XV, EMU XL1 and WIn10 has a tizwaz, although it didn't with pre Win10 April Update and with Cubase 8.5 before that W10/04 update all was running sweet as a nut.

At least I know I am not alone......a quick Google on " problems with win 10 april 2019 update" returns 59million results, ok I know that is not truly representative but whilst trying to get the damned thing fixed I came across one site where there were 1000's of complaints, and counting.
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Re: RTFM

Postby The Elf » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:39 pm

Simple setup!!! You’ve clearly not seen my studio!!!! :lol:


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Re: RTFM

Postby ceejay » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:53 pm

My contribution to this absorbing thread is that it is not so much about the asking of the question, but the reaction to the answer that is often the problem with today's yoof - particularly when it comes to Facebook. I have been involved with a piece of radio broadcasting automation software over many years, even helping the developer with ways to improve it. When its help forum moved from Yahoo to Facebook, I like many others moved with it, but I gave up after a while because, like the "fish" analogy, my answers to questions raised tended to be not RTFM, but a detailed, specific direction to a particular paragraph in the help file that would not only give the particular answer, but also, hopefully, provide some context that would be of assistance. The resulting abuse from (mainly loudmouth Americans) who wanted a quick fix was disappointing and so I gave up. I still read the forum and see the same people asking the same basic questions because they not only have no idea what they're doing but can't comprehend the answers they're given because they just can't be bothered helping themselves and want someone to do it for them. Many of these people own and/or operate radio stations in the US which is quite a frightening thought :roll:
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Re: RTFM

Postby ef37a » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:30 pm

Folderol wrote:Where I used to work it was a continual source of frustration (and I expect still is).
The worst of all was one occasion half way though doing the company VAT returns, the accountant went to the loo, only to find when she got back Windows had decided to do a major update... for several hours :(

Bear in mind none of the office staff are particularly computer savvy, and just want to be able to use the system as normal users.

One would have thought Will that the IT person would have set the PCs not to update or at least "notify"?

My daughter works for a college and she cannot install anything on her works laotop.

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Re: RTFM

Postby OneWorld » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:53 pm

The Elf wrote:Simple setup!!! You’ve clearly not seen my studio!!!! :lol:


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Re: RTFM

Postby blinddrew » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:30 pm

One end of the Elf's room: Image

and the other end:
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Unfortunately he's now spent so much on synths he can't afford lighting... ;)
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Re: RTFM

Postby ConcertinaChap » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:38 pm

And that of course is just his stage setup.

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Re: RTFM

Postby Folderol » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:55 pm

Well, rather like this then :)
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Re: RTFM

Postby The Elf » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:02 pm

:lol:

Let's just say that at last count I'm using 30+ USB ports and 24 MIDI ports - and I still have to share chains!

But I will also add that gear has to earn its keep here... ;)
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Re: RTFM

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:07 pm

Arpangel wrote:DIY shops where you could get 17 2 inch No 10's in a paper bag, and a cut length of 2X1 are gone forever.
So are tool shops, they are a rarity these days,

We have both locally (though we are down to the last ones) and the latter near my holiday place......
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