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New Rode Small Diaphragm Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:47 am
by Mike Stranks
These have been in the offing for some time, but have finally arrived:

https://www.rode.com/tf-5

Given the enthusiasm for the NT5/NT55 here, there should be a lot of interest...

Hugh: Review in the pipeline?

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:54 am
by ConcertinaChap
Priced at or above the KM184. Something of a change of strategy for Rode there.

CC

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:06 pm
by Bob Bickerton
Interesting. Like other Rode specs, the polar pattern is grossly over simplified, so not much confidence there, but what is positive is that the published frequency response, if accurate, is almost exactly the same as the Neumann TLM193/TLM170 (cardioid), in which case these could be very good indeed.....

Bob

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:08 pm
by Mike Stranks
... and these are the first in the range of Rode TF (Tony Faulkner) mics...

It'll be interesting to see what comes next.

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:13 pm
by ConcertinaChap
If it does match the TLM193 then it might be a cracking vocal mic as well.

CC

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:20 pm
by Hugh Robjohns
Mike Stranks wrote:Given the enthusiasm for the NT5/NT55 here there should be a lot of interest...
Hugh: Review in the pipeline?

I'm sure we will...

I laid my sticky paws on a pair not long ago: when I bumped into Tony Faulkner at an industry thing he rummaged in his bag and pulled out an early production test pair of these mics which he's been working with... as well as a much larger and soon-to-be-released Rode wonder that I can't talk about yet... ;)

As many will know, Tony has been helping Rode develop quite a few interesting high-end mics of late, and Rode is raising its game to play seriously alongside the long-established European manufacturers.

The TF-5s are very KM84-ish in terms of size, style, quality, and precision. I gather Tony's not a fan of KM84s (unlike most of the rest of the recording world), but he told me the TF-5s are "rather nice".

So I'm very much looking forward to having a proper play.

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:41 pm
by The Korff
As I type, the review models are winging their way over from Australia. We'll get them reviewed asap!

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:26 pm
by Smellthevalve
Hugh Robjohns wrote:a much larger and soon-to-be-released Rode wonder that I can't talk about yet...

Well I would expect there to be something with a valve in it ;)

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:52 pm
by John Willett
ConcertinaChap wrote:Priced at or above the KM184. Something of a change of strategy for Rode there.

CC

Well, they have development costs on the mics - and they have to pay TF ;)

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:41 pm
by CS70
John Willett wrote:
ConcertinaChap wrote:Priced at or above the KM184. Something of a change of strategy for Rode there.

CC

Well, they have development costs on the mics - and they have to pay TF ;)

Ahah no, marginal costs are what matters for pricing. The famous name, and the price bracket choice itself are the marketing clues.

Wonder if it'll work. It's gotta be a long term strategy anyways: brands have a tendency to stick with an image for a very long time after that image is created. Rode is "okay mics that dont cost too much and are used by good amateurs". Neumanns are "wonderful mics that cost a lot and are used by professionals". Totally regardless of whether is true or not. The wording "for the price" seldom appears when talking Neumanns. And it's far easier to wash out a brand than to make it posher. It's not a case that Lexus exists (and it worked).

Will see.. wish them the best of luck.

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:51 pm
by ManFromGlass
My take on Röde is no longer your definition based on the last few years offerings of mics. My perception has also changed for Behringer and synths. I wish them both well too.
I suspect it’s a tough slog to change the community’s perception of your products.

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:48 pm
by ConcertinaChap
sE is another example of a company that has taken the same path from very-good-for-the-price to pricey-but-desirable. It can be done and I wish Rode well, particularly because I'm deeply in love with my NT-SF1.

CC

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:14 pm
by James Perrett
ManFromGlass wrote:My take on Röde is no longer your definition based on the last few years offerings of mics. My perception has also changed for Behringer and synths. I wish them both well too.
I suspect it’s a tough slog to change the community’s perception of your products.

Both Rode and Behringer have acquired other companies that are well established in the areas that they want to move into. Behringer can put the Midas name on their mixers and now have their own semiconductor manufacturing after buying TC Electronic. Rode acquired Soundfield and Rycote who are both well respected specialists.

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:38 pm
by John Willett
James Perrett wrote: Rode acquired Soundfield and Rycote who are both well respected specialists.

Er - Røde *don't* own Rycote.

Røde licence Rycote designs and a consultant that worked for Rycote now does work for Røde.

Rycote is now part of the Vitec group - nothing to do with Røde.

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:26 pm
by James Perrett
John Willett wrote:Er - Røde *don't* own Rycote.

Røde licence Rycote designs and a consultant that worked for Rycote now does work for Røde.

Rycote is now part of the Vitec group - nothing to do with Røde.

Sorry - that's what happens when you rely on a somewhat ageing memory. :headbang: I knew that there had been changes and that Rode were using Rycote designs so made more of it than there really is.

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:19 pm
by Sam Inglis
Rode have definitely upped their game in recent years. As CC says the NT-SF1 is excellent and the NT-R is a superb mic.

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:28 pm
by Hugh Robjohns
...and there's a lot more in the works where they came from...

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:54 am
by ConcertinaChap
And I'm sure there's a few more subtle hints from Hugh to come too :thumbup:

CC

Re: New Rode Small Diaphram Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:44 am
by Aural Reject
ConcertinaChap wrote:And I'm sure there's a few more subtle hints from Hugh to come too :thumbup:

CC

Well....there's the supposed TF-50....and the rumoured NT49 and NTR-V that GS have been salivating about for years....

Re: New Rode Small Diaphragm Capacitor Mics

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:59 am
by Arpangel
I'm interested in Tony Faulkener's Rode connection, especially as he lists the Rode K2 in his equipment list. I was thinking of getting a pair of K2's as a relatively cheap pair of large diaphragm condensers. I'm thinking, if Mr Faulkener uses them they can't be bad type of equation!

Rode seem to be going out as a manufacturer of high end microphones in their own right, instead of being thought of as a cheap alternative, albeit a good, "cheap-er" alternative.

Would I buy a set of Rode small diaphragms to replace my Sennheiser MKH's? Film and TV people will still pull a 416 off the shelf before anything else.

I'd really like to try some Rode mic's, if they are as good as I've heard they'd be a great way to expand my collection.