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Re: microphone case options

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:46 am
by ConcertinaChap
I bought one of these recently to house my NT-SF1 and associated parts since I didn't fancy the cardboard box it comes in for long term survivability. It's quite good except the top dimpled layer isn't thick enough which can allow stuff to fall out of the holes you've carefully crafted for them. Still, it's easy to lower it down a bit if you've got a suitable bit of foam to hand (which you will have having made all the holes).

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Re: microphone case options

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:45 pm
by John Willett
forumuser653351 wrote:Hello
I’m looking to get a case to put all my microphones in for when I go on location. The main reason is to keep the mics protected and reduce the amount of stuff to carry - rather than keeping them in their separate boxes.
Current mics are: Neumann TLM 102, Lewitt LCT 441, Line Audio CM3 pair and MBHO SDC pair. Hoping to add a pair of Line Audio OM1 and another LDC soon. Shock-mounts, clips etc I can store separately if need-be.
I’ve found a couple of possibilities: http://www.pulse-audio.co.uk/product/acc-case-m/ and: https://www.thomann.de/gb/thon_flex_cut_universal_mischpult_1.htm
Has anyone got any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Ian

I would go to Case Design, get a Peli case from them and have them custom foam it for you :thumbup:

I have had several cases from them - their quality is excellent and they LAST.

I am just about to go back to them and get a Peli from them for my Gefell M930 and M221 sets and accessories.

They will get the best size Peli for your kit and work out the best protected layout for you - they are a great and friendly company. :thumbup:

Re: microphone case options

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:03 pm
by Wonks
But a Peli case has already been classed as far too expensive.

Re: microphone case options

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:12 pm
by Sam Spoons
True but it's still only around 10% of the value of the mics which is a reasonable ratio IMO.

Re: microphone case options

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:12 pm
by John Willett
Wonks wrote:But a Peli case has already been classed as far too expensive.

OK - I posted after reading the first post only...

There are cheaper options of cases that are Peli "copies".

This type of case is definitely the best option for the transport of microphones.

Flightcase Warehouse do cheaper cases - as well as ex-demo ones at a lower price. :thumbup:

Re: microphone case options

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:33 pm
by forumuser840717
The thing with Peli copies is that a lot of them* look the part but are just thinly made hard plastic cases which lack the important features that make Peli cases the product that they are - particularly the impact resistance and sealing. (* Not all - there are some cases that offer comparable levels of protection but they tend to be more or less the same price as a Peli.)

Yes, Peli cases aren't cheap but they're well made, offer excellent protection to their contents, are available in a huge range of sizes and types, and have a good guarantee. If you have a bunch of decent quality mics, a properly fitted Peli case will cost a fraction of the value of the contents. I was once told that budgeting about 10% of the equipment's value was a reasonable ratio of value to cost for a decent protective case. If you have a lot of mics then a Peli becomes comparatively cheap as 10% of their value could buy a pretty serious set of cases!

If you're not in a desperate hurry and don't mind secondhand, you can make huge savings by buying used Peli cases. There's usually a good turnover of different sizes and types on the world's favourite auction site. Pretty much all my Peli cases (nearly 20 of them) came from there and I saved £'000s by getting them that way. I'd probably look to buy one without foam and have someone like Case Design (there are several other companies doing it) make a properly fitted interior. I've never got along very well with the pick and pluck type foam. It's ok for larger things but I always find it eventually breaks up with lots of little pockets in it.

When lining, do leave a good body of foam around the edges of the case - enough to protect the weight of the contents - and consider possible impact scenarios like which is the most likely way that the case could be dropped, when orientating the contents. I once had a mishap with a case containing several LDCs falling off a stacked trolley. I'd put the mics in with their heads facing the hinge so that they looked the right way up when I opened the case. Unfortunately, that meant that when they fell, with the case hinge downwards, even though there was 100mm of pick and pluck foam between them and the case, landing on their heads did them no good as the pick and pluck tore and compressed with the weight of the mics and most of them needed repairing after their head grilles got badly dented/bent by the impact on the inside of the case. I've since had the case relined with two different grades of foam - a firmer one that has the cutouts in for the mics, so it doesn't tear, with a buffer of softer foram around the edge of the case, and re-arranged the mics to be the other way up so their weight is less likely to bear down on the head grilles in a fall. Since when, they've been quite safe.

In one new case I'm trying out keeping some LDC mics in their Rycote USM shockmounts so that the mounts give some extra bounce protection in transit. It seems effective and greatly speeds up rigging/derigging but it does make the whole arrangement really bulky compared to foam casing just the mics and just chucking the shockmounts (which are close to indestructible in normal handling) into a pile in another case.

Re: microphone case options

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:10 pm
by forumuser653351
ConcertinaChap wrote:I bought one of these recently to house my NT-SF1 and associated parts since I didn't fancy the cardboard box it comes in for long term survivability. It's quite good except the top dimpled layer isn't thick enough which can allow stuff to fall out of the holes you've carefully crafted for them. Still, it's easy to lower it down a bit if you've got a suitable bit of foam to hand (which you will have having made all the holes).

CC

That looks quite nice, I shall add it to the possible list. Cheers.

Re: microphone case options

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:15 pm
by forumuser653351
Sam Spoons wrote:True but it's still only around 10% of the value of the mics which is a reasonable ratio IMO.

That is something to think about for sure.

Re: microphone case options

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:15 pm
by forumuser653351
John Willett wrote:
Wonks wrote:But a Peli case has already been classed as far too expensive.

OK - I posted after reading the first post only...

There are cheaper options of cases that are Peli "copies".

This type of case is definitely the best option for the transport of microphones.

Flightcase Warehouse do cheaper cases - as well as ex-demo ones at a lower price. :thumbup:

Thanks, I'll check them out.

Re: microphone case options

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:25 pm
by forumuser653351
forumuser840717 wrote:The thing with Peli copies is that a lot of them* look the part but are just thinly made hard plastic cases which lack the important features that make Peli cases the product that they are - particularly the impact resistance and sealing. (* Not all - there are some cases that offer comparable levels of protection but they tend to be more or less the same price as a Peli.)

Yes, Peli cases aren't cheap but they're well made, offer excellent protection to their contents, are available in a huge range of sizes and types, and have a good guarantee. If you have a bunch of decent quality mics, a properly fitted Peli case will cost a fraction of the value of the contents. I was once told that budgeting about 10% of the equipment's value was a reasonable ratio of value to cost for a decent protective case. If you have a lot of mics then a Peli becomes comparatively cheap as 10% of their value could buy a pretty serious set of cases!

If you're not in a desperate hurry and don't mind secondhand, you can make huge savings by buying used Peli cases. There's usually a good turnover of different sizes and types on the world's favourite auction site. Pretty much all my Peli cases (nearly 20 of them) came from there and I saved £'000s by getting them that way. I'd probably look to buy one without foam and have someone like Case Design (there are several other companies doing it) make a properly fitted interior. I've never got along very well with the pick and pluck type foam. It's ok for larger things but I always find it eventually breaks up with lots of little pockets in it.

When lining, do leave a good body of foam around the edges of the case - enough to protect the weight of the contents - and consider possible impact scenarios like which is the most likely way that the case could be dropped, when orientating the contents. I once had a mishap with a case containing several LDCs falling off a stacked trolley. I'd put the mics in with their heads facing the hinge so that they looked the right way up when I opened the case. Unfortunately, that meant that when they fell, with the case hinge downwards, even though there was 100mm of pick and pluck foam between them and the case, landing on their heads did them no good as the pick and pluck tore and compressed with the weight of the mics and most of them needed repairing after their head grilles got badly dented/bent by the impact on the inside of the case. I've since had the case relined with two different grades of foam - a firmer one that has the cutouts in for the mics, so it doesn't tear, with a buffer of softer foram around the edge of the case, and re-arranged the mics to be the other way up so their weight is less likely to bear down on the head grilles in a fall. Since when, they've been quite safe.

In one new case I'm trying out keeping some LDC mics in their Rycote USM shockmounts so that the mounts give some extra bounce protection in transit. It seems effective and greatly speeds up rigging/derigging but it does make the whole arrangement really bulky compared to foam casing just the mics and just chucking the shockmounts (which are close to indestructible in normal handling) into a pile in another case.

Thanks for the detailed response, I'm not n a hurry to get a case, so looking second hand for a Peli case is a valuable option.

Thanks to everyone for sharing your thoughts and experience, I really appreciate this on the SOS forums :)