stefanaalten wrote:TheElf, CS70, thanks.
I'm now looking at the Zoom Q2n-4K - "The 4K Camera for Musicians" :-) to capture the performance. I'm (slowly...) beginning to form a mental image of the kind of setup I would need. Can I just bounce this off the forum?
I dont know the Zoom - but the tech nowadays is so good that almost any DSLR camera after 2015-16 will do. I personally use MFT cameras from Panasonic, because of the weight and size of the lenses (read: light and small), but really any format does. And buy used! Camera whiz change camera bodies like normal people changes shirts, so the market is flooded with fantastic kit from the year before which is sold at peanuts, barely the top high end keeps a little value, and you don't want them for starting, they're too complicated.
There's all sorts of features in modern cameras but if videomaking is not your primary interest, you want something with good autofocus and good automatic shooting and you're set.
Good point to have the same make as the coloring of the footage will be the same or very similar.
As of 4K, I would actually not recommend it for starters: you need faster and better (and more expensive) SD cards, the file sizes are huge - just creating the proxies takes much more time - there's much more variety of formats and it requires significantly more powerful hardware to work with, not to mention time.
4K is very useful when you want to be able to cut a lot in post and you work intensely with coloring - but these aren't things that you would do much at the beginning. Much easier to familiarize yourself with an editor and find your workflow by making your first video in HD and take it from there.
That doesn't mean not getting a 4K-capable camera (that's a good idea): a used G7 for example these days goes for peanuts. It *is* gonna be wasted money (i.e. you can't resell it) but all camera bodies are wasted money, and buying used you minimize your losses and get a lot from the kit long after is no longer fashionable.
The glass (lenses) is what matters most in any case - and that's what keeps its value.
One or more devices to capture the performance. Understand that there is a wide range of combinations possible here, but I'm thinking of a couple of Zoom Q2N-4K's in fixed positions (one at the back of the hall for the wide angle view and then perhaps one on either side targeted at different sections of the orchestra), plus a "mobile cameraman" simply with their smartphone.
Yeah really anything works. The only limit of the phone is that its lens is a very wide angle so close shots of people make them look odd (big nose, small ears). To start with I'd go with the least expensive solution - couple of phones for the wide shots and cameraman manning a proper DSLR, either with a zoom lens (which reaches a portrait length, say 50 to 80mm or equivalent) or a fixed 45/50mm lens or equivalent. The zoom is good so long your cameraman friend knows that the wider the lens (i.e. lower than 45mm) the less he can get near to people (as they will look ugly).
If you can get someone to move around one of the fixed cameras in various angles a few times during the set you get even better options for free.
b) Bring it all together in a multi-track video editing software package. I'm doing some searching on this now and have two tabs open for Shotcut and OpenShot. Any others I should look at? (I'm on Windows 10)
As of above, on PC, I'd download HitFilm or Resolve - they're a bit less intuitive but if you RTFM is not that hard. Otherwise Movie Studio from Magix is a great package.
On Mac, the Adobe stuff is expensive and you need a subscription I think, but guess there's versions of HitFilm or Resolve exist there as well..