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Re: Starter setup advice required

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:12 pm

The Elf wrote:Don't forget to come say hello to me at Synthfest! :thumbup:

Are you on a stand?
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Re: Starter setup advice required

Postby The Elf » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:46 pm

ReadySaltedChris wrote:
The Elf wrote:Don't forget to come say hello to me at Synthfest! :thumbup:
Are you on a stand?
I'm managing the exhibitors. I'm easy to find - I'm the one looking for cables and connectors the exhibitors forgot to bring!
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Re: Starter setup advice required

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:08 pm

The Elf wrote:
ReadySaltedChris wrote:
The Elf wrote:Don't forget to come say hello to me at Synthfest! :thumbup:
Are you on a stand?
I'm managing the exhibitors. I'm easy to find - I'm the one looking for cables and connectors the exhibitors forgot to bring!

Ahhh so that's you is it :)
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Re: Starter setup advice required

Postby jimh76 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:53 pm

Hi, another option, if he's just wanting to record guitar and vocals, which is a good middle ground for the step up from analogue to a computer is what I use.

It's the tascam dp32sd. It's a porta studio, but has more of a computer feel to it as you can see wave forms, cut, copy, paste, duplicate, it has click tracks, effects, dynamics etc. You can replace sections using auto punch in and out as well.

You can mix, and master in the box as well. It's got 8 ins, but the thing I like about it is it's all saved to an sd card, so you can always take that out and then load onto a computer to finish it off.

I'm a singer and guitarist and the thing I really like is that it's on and ready to record in a matter of seconds, and doesn't suffer from drive incompatibility issues, or 1 card not talking to another, etc. Get yourself a couple of mics, a drum machine and you're away.

It's 32 tracks so I find it limits me in a good way as I've not got 15 guitar tracks with 9 vocal tracks that I'm trying to somehow mix together.

Anyway it works for me as I'm never turning it on when inspiration hits me, but am hour later still trying to get the computer working and therefore losing the spark.

Worth a look imho.

Jim
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Re: Starter setup advice required

Postby ef37a » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:36 pm

jimh76 wrote:Hi, another option, if he's just wanting to record guitar and vocals, which is a good middle ground for the step up from analogue to a computer is what I use.

It's the tascam dp32sd. It's a porta studio, but has more of a computer feel to it as you can see wave forms, cut, copy, paste, duplicate, it has click tracks, effects, dynamics etc. You can replace sections using auto punch in and out as well.

You can mix, and master in the box as well. It's got 8 ins, but the thing I like about it is it's all saved to an sd card, so you can always take that out and then load onto a computer to finish it off.

I'm a singer and guitarist and the thing I really like is that it's on and ready to record in a matter of seconds, and doesn't suffer from drive incompatibility issues, or 1 card not talking to another, etc. Get yourself a couple of mics, a drum machine and you're away.

It's 32 tracks so I find it limits me in a good way as I've not got 15 guitar tracks with 9 vocal tracks that I'm trying to somehow mix together.

Anyway it works for me as I'm never turning it on when inspiration hits me, but am hour later still trying to get the computer working and therefore losing the spark.

Worth a look imho.

Jim

Now see, I don't get that? I am pretty lowbrow in this forum company when it comes to computer matters but I could now simple get up, go into the "studio", fire up the desktop in there and after at most a minute have the computer standing by. I then simple bring up Samplitude, "Start new track", name it and plug a mic into the NI KA6 and I am away....Or, I could unplug the KA6, take it into another room and plug it into this laptop. Samplitude again (or indeed Reaper or Audacity) and I am cooking. If I could still play guitar worth a fig, I could plug in son's Mex Strat no worries.

Jim, you have a deep problem with your computer/AI/DAW setup.

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Re: Starter setup advice required

Postby jimh76 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:45 pm

Hi Dave,

Just saying that there are other options to computers. In my personal experience, computers work fine when new, but when they have been around the block with plugin's added, deleted, drivers changed etc, they can take ages to load up. Of course this is just my experience, but on occasions in the past I have gone into my studio to record something, and spent an hour trying to work out why something is in conflict with something else, and then the nights gone.

I'm a bit of an old school tascam boy at heart....

To be honest I can see that I'm the dying breed here and know I'll have to make the full leap to a full computer only setup at some stage, but to be honest, I just record for fun.
Mostly live instruments I play or mates and family, so it's mainly live recordings (no syths or programming).

When the OP mentioned his mate, he sounded a lot like me so thought I'd chip in...;o)

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Re: Starter setup advice required

Postby CS70 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:27 pm

If it consoles you, it’s important to know that it doesn’t have to be like that.

What often makes a DAW application obsolete is the fact that we keep upgrading it, just because we can.

A well maintained and stable DAW system will be as fast after 10 years as the first time it was run,.

That said, after a few years the cost of getting a system with much more functionality and possibilities tends to be small, so certain upgrades are very beneficial. The trick is to be smart about it.
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Re: Starter setup advice required

Postby ef37a » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:49 pm

Hmm, This i3 HP g6 laptop upon which I type has 3 free versions of Samplitude on it plus a purchased ProX3. Audacity, Adobe Audition 1.5, Reaper (paid for!) Cubase Essentials 6. Office 2007 and a shedload of other stuff gathered over 6 or 7 years.

And yes, as I say, I can just plug in my NI KA6 (or indeed an 8i6 if I can be arsed to find the PSU!) and be recording in a minute or so.

And yet, I am NO PC guru, I have no deep knowledge of computer management. It runs all my internet work, hopping between FFox and IE11 and generally works fine. I have just the free version of Ms SEss and run the free Malwarebytes once a month or so. Rarely do either facilities find a problem. Once in a bluey I run Ccleaner in the Registry mode (an old one. I don't trust the new update) .

Don't take MY advice FHS but If I had your problems I would first uninstall and reinstall the DAW and same for any hard ware drivers (the DAW might have a repair mode, always worth a hack) .

If that does not help. I would format the HDD and re install the Jewson lot!

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Re: Starter setup advice required

Postby innerchord » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:26 pm

Don't forget that this could be accomplished on an iPad too! Some excellent guitar sounds available as well, for very little money.
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Re: Starter setup advice required

Postby Guest » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:12 pm

jimh76 wrote:
When the OP mentioned his mate, he sounded a lot like me so thought I'd chip in...;o)

Yeah, my buddy has been recording his tunes on some Tascam 8 track thingy for years - it must be 20 years old at least.
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Re: Starter setup advice required

Postby Wonks » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:41 pm

Please give Alans my regards.
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Re: Starter setup advice required

Postby Guest » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:10 am

Wonks wrote:Please give Alans my regards.

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