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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby Watchmaker » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:47 pm

Playing live and studio recording are two distinct disciplines with different objectives and feedback loops. Sure a "song" is a common element, but draw the Venn diagram in your mind as there are a great many important distinctions.
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby blinddrew » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:56 pm

Much as I like twiddling knobs and tweaking waveforms, recording the band as singer, songwriter, equipment provider, engineer, mixer, producer, biscuit provider and all the rest was a pretty stressful experience and the room didn't sound great.
So whilst I'm happy recording my solo stuff at home, if we had the cash I'd definitely prefer to record the band stuff in a proper studio. Somewhere with a big enough live room that we could all be in the same place and properly 'perform' the song.
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby Sam Spoons » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:00 am

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Sam Spoons wrote:I wonder if it's more to do with the performance, new bands are often intimidated and a little reserved in the studio? I know I was when a mate with a decent small pro studio offered to record a demo of my covers band. He did get a decent enough performance out of us but it wasn't as exciting as us playing to an audience.

I think this is terrible actually, if a new band feels intimidated in any recording situation or studio it's not their fault, it's the studio.
It's up to the studio, engineers etc to make them feel as relaxed and creative as possible, if this isn't that case then they're in the wrong place.

No it's not, it's just that inexperienced bands are bound to be tense in a new situation (i.e. the studio). A good studio will certainly do their best to get a good performance but, as Watchmaker says :-.

Watchmaker wrote:Playing live and studio recording are two distinct disciplines with different objectives and feedback loops. Sure a "song" is a common element, but draw the Venn diagram in your mind as there are a great many important distinctions.
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby Arpangel » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:17 am

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Sam Spoons wrote:I wonder if it's more to do with the performance, new bands are often intimidated and a little reserved in the studio? I know I was when a mate with a decent small pro studio offered to record a demo of my covers band. He did get a decent enough performance out of us but it wasn't as exciting as us playing to an audience.

I think this is terrible actually, if a new band feels intimidated in any recording situation or studio it's not their fault, it's the studio.
It's up to the studio, engineers etc to make them feel as relaxed and creative as possible, if this isn't that case then they're in the wrong place.

No it's not, it's just that inexperienced bands are bound to be tense in a new situation (i.e. the studio). A good studio will certainly do their best to get a good performance but, as Watchmaker says :-.

Watchmaker wrote:Playing live and studio recording are two distinct disciplines with different objectives and feedback loops. Sure a "song" is a common element, but draw the Venn diagram in your mind as there are a great many important distinctions.

I know we're all different, but for me, there is no difference at all, between studio or live performances, I'm still giving a performance, the audience is just different, or just me!
I know there are works that are created in the studio, and the feedback processes are crucial to those things, in that environment, but surely, you must know what you want to a certain extent, as a band, I guess that's why some bands choose certain studios, in preference to others.
I still stand by the traditional commercial studio set up, it's a great leveler, and it gives you the opportunity to get useful feedback, but there is a school of thought that thinks exactly the opposite is true, and critical isolation and home studios can yield far more original results.
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby ConcertinaChap » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:21 am

Arpangel wrote:I think this is terrible actually, if a new band feels intimidated in any recording situation or studio it's not their fault, it's the studio.
It's up to the studio, engineers etc to make them feel as relaxed and creative as possible, if this isn't that case then they're in the wrong place.

I know I'm small fry in this business but a lot of the people I record it's their first time in a studio and they're intimidated before they even ring the doorbell. So a big chunk of the set up is about putting them at their ease and in particular convincing them that mistakes aren't important because they're easy to handle. The more you reduce the fear of mistakes the less mistakes happen and the better the overall recording. This is more about the attitude of the engineer, though, rather than home v. pro studio. The only pro studio I've recorded in the engineer (Doug Bailey of Wild Goose) was very good at this and had a strong influence on the way I try to do things now.

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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby blinddrew » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:30 am

Yep, I've never recorded someone else in a studio, but I have recorded lots of videos and a few podcasts and getting the guests comfortable is a skill. I'm almost certainly way better at that than I am at recording!
So I'd argue that it's a little bit of everything really. People will be nervous when they arrive, a good engineer will help alleviate that and help get the best out of them. But they'll probably still be nervous, partly about being in a new, alien and expensive environment, and partly just the usual nerves of a performance.

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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby James Perrett » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:02 am

blinddrew wrote:Much as I like twiddling knobs and tweaking waveforms, recording the band as singer, songwriter, equipment provider, engineer, mixer, producer, biscuit provider and all the rest was a pretty stressful experience and the room didn't sound great.
So whilst I'm happy recording my solo stuff at home, if we had the cash I'd definitely prefer to record the band stuff in a proper studio. Somewhere with a big enough live room that we could all be in the same place and properly 'perform' the song.

I'd definitely echo this. If a band that I'm playing in wants to record then I want someone else to do the engineering so that I can concentrate on the playing. I've tried doing everything and I find that there's just too much pressure to both perform and get the sound right so the end product is compromised. I'm usually happy to take over the engineering duties once I've finished playing though.
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby Arpangel » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:55 am

I think the problem can be, with a lot of people, I've come across it quite a bit, is giving technical guidance, to enable "their" ideas, without making someone feel like you're producing, or taking over.
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby JackS » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:05 pm

Thanks everyone for the responses, very much appreciated!
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby Guest » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:26 pm

JackS wrote:Hi,

I am currently doing a dissertation for my college course and was wondering if I could get everyones thoughts on which is best and why?

Thanks

You are gonna be struggling to record a 60 piece orchestra in yer home studio.
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:54 pm

Nah... Just record them one at a time with a click... :lol: :beamup:
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby Wonks » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:10 am

Hiring Simon Rattle to conduct each instrument could be on the expensive side. :D
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:15 am

I'm sure he'd do mates rates... :bouncy:
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby Rich Hanson » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:28 am

Oh I don't know, I think Rattle might be shaken by such a request.


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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby Aural Reject » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:06 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:Nah... Just record them one at a time with a click... :lol: :beamup:

The number of times I've been asked to do that.....or to take people out of rooms...or to provide clicks NOW for people within an ensemble who've never used one and don't get how unnaturally difficult it is initially....

Nowt as good as clients ;) :beamup:
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby CS70 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:22 pm

ReadySaltedChris wrote:
JackS wrote:Hi,

I am currently doing a dissertation for my college course and was wondering if I could get everyones thoughts on which is best and why?

Thanks

You are gonna be struggling to record a 60 piece orchestra in yer home studio.

I thought that the only people recording 60 piece orchestras nowadays were the guys making sample libraries.. :)
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby blinddrew » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:25 pm

I thought they did them one note at a time in home studios? Don't even need a click!
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby paul tha other » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:13 pm

fir me they are the same....the only thing that makes a studio a studio is the staff..if you have a great studio with a engineer that knows everything about the room and the kit ,nothing beats that..if you get on with him and he gets on with you, you have found "your studio"

ive been working in studios and the likes for 30 years..i get great results from my home studio (well for me its great)..i can take my time doing the takes .although i dont like recording my "singing" at home..i only do it when i know my neighbours are at work..

the only negitive thing i can say about home recording is this..sometimes i have to much time to think about what im doing and will sometimes go down rabbit holes and get lost or waste my time on something thats not important or just plain crap..when i find my self there, i often just switch everything off and go find something else to do

also on the differance between live and studio work is like this for me..

live ,i go on the stage with my ego in full swing

studio ,i leave my ego at the studio front door
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby MOF » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:13 pm

I think this is terrible actually, if a new band feels intimidated in any recording situation or studio it's not their fault, it's the studio.
It's up to the studio, engineers etc to make them feel as relaxed and creative as possible, if this isn't that case then they're in the wrong place.

Yes and no, unless you’ve got a sizeable budget then at the back of your mind you’re aware of the clock ticking.
When there’s no audience to react to your performance it’s potentially more sterile, no atmosphere.
Red light fever is a real thing, a good engineer should record the first run through just incase the band get stressed on the actual recording.
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Re: Home Studio vs Professional Studio

Postby MOF » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:21 pm

Nowt as good as clients ;) :beamup:

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A. They’ll never need to change it, but if they do they’ll change it over and over again. :lol:
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