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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby Chimera » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:49 am

If you are looking to get an Oberheim feel then I would recommend the Analog Heat.

Turn both tone controls up and dial in a high resonance on the LPF. Tweak the frequency knob down a little until the sizzle comes in. With this my Prophet 08 sounds frighteningly similar to my OB6.
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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby Arpangel » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:52 am

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Martin Walker wrote:The 'hand selected 12AX7A tube' augurs well too! ;)

Sounds like another marketing phrase which just means that the valve is picked up by someone by hand from a box of the things, and manually inserted into the socket. I'm sure they'd be too delicate to be machine inserted.

If they said 'each valve is individually tested before fitting to ensure it falls within our chosen range of operating parameters', then I'd be more impressed.

Yes, I'm a cynic, but not as much of one as a marketing person is.

Yes, I'm thinking it's just a couple of valves tacked on to the outputs, but I always find paying fortunes for distortion is a bit of a conn, I wonder what this ART would sound like alongside a Culture Vulture, with varying sources, probably not much different, or a bog standard Boss overdrive pedal.
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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby The Elf » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:11 am

The ART looks a similar device to the dbx386. For that money it has to be worth a chance.
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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby Arpangel » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:37 am

The Elf wrote:The ART looks a similar device to the dbx386. For that money it has to be worth a chance.

You may be right, but I find that valve gear is either one of two things these days, OTT distortion, or it's so clean it may as well be solid state.
I grew up with valve equipment, and listened to my records as a youngster on valve stuff, valves have nothing to do with obvious "distortion" as such, exactly the opposite, I used to love the naturalness, open quality, and general all round realism of valves, it's difficult to describe. But it's why people still pay fortunes for the valve sound, but it was normal to us, solid state gear sounded awful to me when we got it.
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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby The Elf » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:00 am

The reason why people spend a lot of money on valve-based equipment has more to do with 'Wizard's First Rule', IMHO, but I do like the subtle degradation that the right valves in the right device can impart on certain sounds.

If you get the ART then let us know about it!
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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby Arpangel » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:32 am

The Elf wrote:The reason why people spend a lot of money on valve-based equipment has more to do with 'Wizard's First Rule', IMHO, but I do like the subtle degradation that the right valves in the right device can impart on certain sounds.

If you get the ART then let us know about it!

Elf, I'll order one now, and report back.

PS
just been looking at the Black Star HT Dual, gets a lot of good reviews, looks like its got good clean tones too.
Can't seem to find that much about the ART though.
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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby Martin Walker » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:21 pm

Chimera wrote:If you are looking to get an Oberheim feel then I would recommend the Analog Heat.

Turn both tone controls up and dial in a high resonance on the LPF. Tweak the frequency knob down a little until the sizzle comes in. With this my Prophet 08 sounds frighteningly similar to my OB6.

Just tracked down the SOS review of that: https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/el ... nalog-heat

It does sound good, but street price seems to be around the £500 mark, so it would probably be a more considered purchase than an impulse purchase like the ART TPS 11, which does seem to offer an awful lot for around £175:

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You can change the tube if you wish - here's a YouTube on that subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJv2Xl_3KbE


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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby Wonks » Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:10 pm

Martin Walker wrote:You can change the tube if you wish

'Valve', Martin, 'valve'. You'll give Hugh apoplexy saying 'tube'. :headbang: :D
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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby blinddrew » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:27 pm

Changing tubes is what you do on a bicycle... ;)
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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:37 pm

Or an old TV set
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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby Wonks » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:07 pm

Or if you're playing Mornington Crescent.
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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby Martin Walker » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:33 am

Oh dear, I seem to have stepped on a nerve here.

However, in my defence I was referring to a YouTube video, whose title is ART TPS II Tube Replacement, so I hope everyone can forgive my terrible slip and let me carry on my life without further repercussions :ugeek:


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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby Arpangel » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:13 am

Yes, "smell the tube" just doesn't sound right...

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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby Arpangel » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:26 am

OK, an idea, I'll buy this ART thing today, if I don't like it I'll pass it around here, if anyone likes it they can have it for half of what I paid for it.
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Re: Overdrive unit/pedal for warming digital synths?

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:17 am

It's alright; two years of therapy and some marvellous little pills have allowed me to accept the odd Tube instead of Valve. I don't even need the full phrase, Thermionic Valve anymore.

Sadly, the daemons still return on sight of 'toob'.... Oh...shouldn't have said that... Nurse... NURSE!
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