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LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby desmond » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:25 pm

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More details:
https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/produc ... ing-system

Note: Requires UA Apollo/Arrow audio interfaces.

Announcement live stream starting now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7R69zqCAHg

Also - UA does instruments, at last...
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby ConcertinaChap » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:39 pm

Their presenter's a bit of a plonker, isn't he. Since it's free, though, I'll download it and give it a whirl when it comes out. Don't spoze it'll support the MCU.

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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby ore_terra » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:44 pm

yeah... fab dupont. he's not too bad once you get into his "world".
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby IAA » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:46 pm

The instruments are interesting as are the collaborations.
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby Axe L » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:39 pm

ConcertinaChap wrote:Their presenter's a bit of a plonker, isn't he.
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Interesting choice of words, a bit of projection perhaps.

I found him to be very focused and professional and often funny - I was surprised at first, but he delivered and executed perfectly without missing a beat - very hard feat.

For context, I've been to dozens of these shows (17 in a row at one point) and all over the world (i.e., Dubai, Mumbai and Singapore in addition to the usual suspects) and he's basically the best I've seen.
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby jellyjim » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:57 pm

It's amazing it's free :o
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby ore_terra » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:58 pm

he does a lot of puremix tutorials, and at least explaining what/why/how he's doing, he is one of the best I've seen.
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby ore_terra » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:58 pm

jellyjim wrote:It's amazing it's free :o

wait for the "extensions"... :headbang:
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby desmond » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:03 am

jellyjim wrote:It's amazing it's free :o

*If* you have an Apollo or Arrow, of course - it only works with those.

And UA plugins are extra as per usual.

Basically, it's an extension to their previous Console application that now also records/edits, with the audio engine effectively being mostly in the interface (which is why it can do so much without latency issues.)

I like the design - seems typically UA - slick and nice presented without being overly cluttered. I can't see it replacing DAWs for most folks (the lack of third-party plugins is a problem here), but I can see it being a standard recording/tracking front end for some folks already in the UA ecosystem, even if they end up moving to a more conventional DAW later on...
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby ConcertinaChap » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:56 am

desmond wrote: can't see it replacing DAWs for most folks (the lack of third-party plugins is a problem here), but I can see it being a standard recording/tracking front end for some folks already in the UA ecosystem, even if they end up moving to a more conventional DAW later on...

I thin that's spot on. I can't imagine giving up Melodyne/RX7/2c Breeze (my favourite reverb) but for tracking this might be the biz. But I'd still like to see MCU compatibility. After all, the thing's taking up half my desk!

I'm just wondering here ... Apogee already has some of this sort of integration with Logic. Maybe UA couldn't reach an agreement with Apple and so went their own way.

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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby ore_terra » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:54 am

About the 3rd party plugins, in the video you can see the presenter typing to search a plugin and in the results there were soundtoys plugins as well, so hopefully you can use them (not without latency in this case I guess)
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby Dan LB » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:19 pm

A friend of mine is at NAMM and had the tour of LUNA - he says it supports AU plugins
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby ConcertinaChap » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:23 pm

That would be good. MCU support would still be a breaker for me. Of course UAD have a cosy relationship with Softube, so I wouldn't be too surprised if it only supported the Console 1 fader. Who knows - if Luna is really really good maybe I'll replace my MCU with a Softube fader.

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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby Watchmaker » Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:41 am

I'm fully within the UAD orbit yet can't see any incentive to come up the learning curve for this app. Did I miss some incredible something here? btw, that guy deserves his own channel. Some thing's aren't teachable :-)
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby Bob Bickerton » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:54 am

I’m so entrenched in Logic that I would have difficulty switching, but a deal breaker would be if I could set up cue sends directly from Luna. Currently I switch between Logic and Console to do this.

I haven’t watched all the stuff on Luna - anyone know if this is possible?

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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby Bob Bickerton » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:12 am

Following the UAD forum I've just seen this link to a useful summary of Luna: https://musictechtips.com/2020/01/16/universal-audio-announces-daw-luna/

I have to to say the proposed hardware integration (setting up cues etc) seems like a dream come true and, for me, would be worth the pain of learning a new DAW.

Additionally if their sampled instruments are anything like their sampled gear plug-ins, we're in for an interesting ride.

And it's free - provided you buy into the Apollo world. This could be a game changer for hardware sales.......

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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby Sam Inglis » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:14 am

We filmed a pretty detailed overview of Luna with UA's Tom Waterman this morning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RamldAJ2tdM

It seems to handle cue mixing internally and pretty elegantly from what I can tell. There is currently no support for hardware control surfaces, though.
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby Bob Bickerton » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:55 am

Brilliant - very informative!

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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby ore_terra » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:31 am

I do see it for tracking: currently I have to switch from Cubase to Console to set the channels, and sometimes with a return from cubase to console to set the EQ’s, and other processing in order to later move the plugin to the channel I had solo’d in cubase so I can track printing that EQ and processing. That whole process will be a no brainer with this DAW.

What I’d like to see is comping and vocals editing in LUNA
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Re: LUNA: New DAW from Universal Audio

Postby Watchmaker » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:54 pm

ore_terra wrote:in order to later move the plugin to the channel I had solo’d in cubase so I can track printing that EQ and processing.

This confuses me...you can print or bypass effects directly from console. When I don't want to commit during tracking, I run plugins as inserts in my DAW channel and print onto stems later.
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