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Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:27 pm
by The Elf
Wonks wrote:
The Elf wrote:As shown on the Thomann page, that thing will likely be supplied with a Euro plug PSU. And for this reason I will never again buy anything from Thomann that comes with a PSU. UK options are available! ;)
https://www.dv247.com/en_GB/GBP/TC-Electronic-Clarity-M/art-REC0012891-000;pgid=F8zge1C6nWZSRp6f0TQwIxBn0000nvGacd-0

Except that DV247 is German (Music Store), and it will be shipped from Germany. So no guarantee you'll get a UK PSU. Euro PSU and adapter still very likely.

£269 at GAK.
Fair enough. I hadn't realised that. Well worth seeking a UK supplier, though.

Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:04 pm
by Luke W
Hugh Robjohns wrote:
Wonks wrote:Note that the Clarity M requires AES3 digital inputs, so isn't suitable for a lot of systems without some form of extra conversion device.

It is a digital-input device -- It has no analogue inputs at all -- but it will happily accept coaxial or optical S/PDIF as well as AES3, so you can run it from a spare S/PDIF output on the interface if you have one...

There's also a USB connection that receives audio via a plug-in if I remember correctly? Not sure how useful that is for this particular situation but it's quite handy if you're lacking a spare digital output.

Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:37 pm
by N i g e l
The Elf wrote:
Wonks wrote:
The Elf wrote:As shown on the Thomann page, that thing will likely be supplied with a Euro plug PSU. And for this reason I will never again buy anything from Thomann that comes with a PSU. UK options are available!

Except that DV247 is German (Music Store), and it will be shipped from Germany. So no guarantee you'll get a UK PSU. Euro PSU and adapter still very likely.
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yep, I bought some stuff from DV247, same price as Thomann so might as well buy local.
Anyway it shipped from Germany, not a problem but it did have a Euro wall wart.
I tend to stick with Thomann now and have stopped looking at the PSU. They normally provide an adaptor but Im not adverse to buying a £5 UK psu from CPC or similar.

The PSU on my last purchase had a figure of 8 mains lead - very cheap to replace but Thomann included a UK figure 8 lead anyway !

>Sigh< its the 31st on Friday, this time its serious.
:wave: EU shopping

Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:10 pm
by The Elf
As I understand it UK suppliers are legally bound to provide a UK plug to UK buyers - an adapter is not acceptable. It's a very unfair world where non-UK companies can supply new gear directly to the UK, yet seemingly can choose to ignore this.

Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:46 pm
by Folderol
it will never happen of course, but the way to stop this is for large numbers of people to return the goods as 'not fit for purpose - not compliant with UK regulations'.

Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:56 pm
by The Elf
Well I can confirm I’ve done just that not long ago. I agree - another of these things that if we let it go it will become the norm.


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Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:48 pm
by Peevy
Hugh Robjohns wrote:Wonks wrote:Note that the Clarity M requires AES3 digital inputs, so isn't suitable for a lot of systems without some form of extra conversion device.It is a digital-input device -- It has no analogue inputs at all -- but it will happily accept coaxial or optical S/PDIF as well as AES3, so you can run it from a spare S/PDIF output on the interface if you have one...

Would something cheap and cheerful like this work for converting an analogue audio source out into the digital inputs on the Clarity M Stereo.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Converter-Digi ... s9dHJ1ZQ==

I was wondering if it could be a useful addition to my Zoom F8 for on location recording. Take the outs from the Zoom into the Clarity M Stereo. Not so much for levels but for the vector scope and correlation meter capability?

Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:44 pm
by Hugh Robjohns
Sure... But you'll need to know -- and ideally adjust -- the analogue-digital alignment level to be able to configure the meter for accurate level and loudness displays.

Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:18 pm
by Peevy
Hugh Robjohns wrote:Sure... But you'll need to know -- and ideally adjust -- the analogue-digital alignment level to be able to configure the meter for accurate level and loudness displays.

Thanks Hugh

Could be a neat little setup to help with seeing what’s going on while recording on the F8. I think I’d be able to work out how to get the alignment right after a bit of head scratching.

And the Clarity M Stereo would be a nice bit of useful desktop bling the rest of the time! :D

Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:48 pm
by Hugh Robjohns
Peevy wrote:Could be a neat little setup to help with seeing what’s going on while recording on the F8.

I find a vectorscope very useful when recording. I use a little (obsolete) dk technology meter with my nagra vi, so I can see your thinking.

Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:45 am
by Peevy
Hugh Robjohns wrote:I find a vectorscope very useful when recording. I use a little (obsolete) dk technology meter with my nagra vi, so I can see your thinking.

Looks like I may have to give it a try! :D

Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:37 am
by The Elf
I recently discovered that I can provide the USB feed to my Clarity M *and* the power (using one of those Ripcord USB/power cables - 9V, but it seems to work OK) to it from the two USB ports on my X-Touch. Combined with a RAM mount to my X-Touch's pedestal it makes a very cable-tidy mixing station!

Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:10 pm
by Peevy
I’m pleased to report that the Clarity M (with the cheap and cheerful analogue to digital converter as above) is working fine with the Zoom F8. (Stereo mini jack out of sub 1 & 2 to rca phonos into converter. Then connected via Toslink to Clarity M)

Loudness peak levels are about 8db up on the Clarity M as far as I can tell, but I’ve still to take a proper look at that. But main reason for the Clarity M with Zoom F8 is for the vector scope and correlation meter on location and that works great!

Also works perfect with my DAW. :D

Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:56 pm
by The Elf
The Clarity M has become indispensable to me since loudness normalisation became the standard. Play the track through, check the screen - there's your answer. It really is that simple. I've always run mine as a plug-in on my monitoring output - it just sits there and does the job.

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Re: Anyone use an external vu or led meter?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:55 am
by Telegraph Audio
We use Soviet indicators in our devices. And we do the lighting ourselves. It looks very interesting and very comfortable.