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Postby dickiefunk » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:50 pm

Hi,

I’m looking for a new pair of mixing headphones. My budget is around £400. I’ve been using Beyer DT880 Pros a long with Tone Boosters Morphit headphone correction software which works pretty well. However, I still find these don’t translate as well as I would like.
I’ve been having a quick look around and I’m particularly interested in :-

Beyer DT1990
Shure SRH1840
Audeze LCD-1
Sennheiser HD650

The difficulty with buying headphones is it’s not really something you can try before buying. Also, many dealers won’t accept returns because of hygiene.
I tend to find myself favouring Beyer and Shure headphones generally and I haven’t really got on with the AKG K702. I haven’t tried any Audeze headphones yet and have only tried budget Sennheiser headphones.

I have found that Toneboosters Morphit makes a good difference with the DT880 pros and I’m wondering how Sonarworks compares? Interestingly I noticed that the EQ correction curves for the DT880 pros were less than pretty much any other headphones in Morphit?
Would I be better off sticking with the DT880’s and upgrading to Sonarworks (if it is an upgrade) or buy one of the pairs of headphones I mentioned above to use with Morphit.
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Re: New mixing headphones £400

Postby blinddrew » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:23 pm

I don't use 880s, but I do use 770s and 990s and Sonarworks. All I'd say is that whilst Sonarworks will flatten out that curve for you, it's not going to fundamentally make your headphones sound 'better'. If you're looking for a genuine upgrade then certainly consider sonarworks as part of the package but don't expect to suddenly be reveling in newfound delights and unexpected details.
Don't Sonarworks do a trial anyway? Or have I misremembered that?
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Re: New mixing headphones £400

Postby Bob Bickerton » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:09 pm

I let my HD650s go and use DT880s.

Actually the HD650s were more accurate but for long sessions I found them a tad uncomfortable. I find I can “translate” what I’m hearing on DT880s reasonably well, though in truth I’m generally using them to monitor live concert recordings and to check mixes.

Lots of AKG users around here, so they may chip in shortly.

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Re: New mixing headphones £400

Postby ConcertinaChap » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:27 pm

dickiefunk wrote:and I haven’t really got on with the AKG K702.

What problem do you have with them? Just curious because I find them very usable and an amazing bargain (£300 change out of your £400).

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Re: New mixing headphones £400

Postby Luke W » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:16 pm

I've got the Shure SRH1840 and really like them. Not sure how they compare to the others on your list but they're great sounding cans, also very comfortable even over long sessions.
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Re: New mixing headphones £400

Postby Sam Spoons » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:03 am

ConcertinaChap wrote:
dickiefunk wrote:and I haven’t really got on with the AKG K702.

What problem do you have with them? Just curious because I find them very usable and an amazing bargain (£300 change out of your £400).

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Scan have refurbished 702's for £60 just now!
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Re: New mixing headphones £400

Postby The Elf » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:05 am

Sam Spoons wrote:Scan have refurbished 702's for £60 just now!
:wtf: :shock: :clap:
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Re: New mixing headphones £400

Postby Arpangel » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:17 am

I'm not known for my enthusiasm around here, regarding an "uncoloured" sound. So, on that basis forget what I’ve said before.
I'd unreservedly go for the Sennheiser HD600, the 650's are good, but IMO not as transparent as the 600’s, in fact, I’d be so bold as to say that everything that Sennheiser has produced after the 600 regardless of price hasn’t been as good.
I’ve been on sessions where people have forgot they were wearing 600’s and thought they were listening to the live source, when they took them off they said there was very little difference!
It would definitely be the 600’s for me.
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Re: New mixing headphones £400

Postby Trevor Johnson » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:29 am

I'd unreservedly go for the Sennheiser HD600, the 650's are good, but IMO not as transparent as the 600’s, in fact, I’d be so bold as to say that everything that Sennheiser has produced after the 600 regardless of price hasn’t been as good.

I agree. I have both, and whilst the 650s can suit some material, the 600s suit all.

As reported in SOS, there are some 'new' AKG headphones coming out, produced by the old firm, as was. Maybe worth checking out too.
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Re: New mixing headphones £400

Postby John Willett » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:43 pm

I use the HD 800 - but these are well above budget.

I would add the HD 600 to the list as many prefer these over the 650 (and I do have all of these).

I have heard said that the 650 *do* really need an excellent headphone amp. to shine, so, maybe, the 600 would be the better bet...
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Re: New mixing headphones £400

Postby Trevor Johnson » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:51 pm

I have heard said that the 650 *do* really need an excellent headphone amp. to shine

Very interesting John. When I use my 650s, I'm using the separate DAC and amp from my Lynx Hilo, which is, probably as good as it gets, at least for me!

And I have a nice class A headphone amp, (one I made earlier!), that produces a very clean output, and the 600s still sound better on most material than the 650s.

I think that Sennheiser deliberately 'voiced' the 650s for different material. They are more 'forward sounding' with a touch of mid range 'hype', rather than the very neutral, wide soundstage of the 600s. And I was planning on not saying anything subjective: apologies!!
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Re: New mixing headphones £400

Postby Arpangel » Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:59 am

John Willett wrote:I use the HD 800 - but these are well above budget.

I would add the HD 600 to the list as many prefer these over the 650 (and I do have all of these).

I have heard said that the 650 *do* really need an excellent headphone amp. to shine, so, maybe, the 600 would be the better bet...

Hi john, I can remember Mike getting a pair of 800's, we did a piano session at St Johns Smiths Square, we had 600''s in the car too, the 800's had a weird top end thing going on, which drew your attention to them, we ended up using the 600's as they just seemed more natural.
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Re: New mixing headphones £400

Postby Sam Inglis » Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:15 am

Trevor Johnson wrote:As reported in SOS, there are some 'new' AKG headphones coming out, produced by the old firm, as was. Maybe worth checking out too.

The Austrian Audio headphones are closed-back and not particularly neutral, so although they're nice, they wouldn't be my first choice for mixing.
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