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Re: Will M-Audio ever support midisport in Catalina?

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:30 am
by jimjazzdad
Do you happen to know if the old Delta systems work on Windows 10? I have a couple of those I've not used in years. They should go to a new home if they're still useful.
The Delta PCI cards certainly run on W7 and, reportedly, on W8.1. I have been loathe to upgrade my (offline) studio PC from 7 to 10, but I am still using 8 channels of Delta in that machine. As Trevor says, "impossible to kill and been around for ever" and he indicates that he has one running on W10.

Re: Will M-Audio ever support midisport in Catalina?

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:30 pm
by innerchord
jimjazzdad wrote:I have been loathe to upgrade my (offline) studio PC from 7 to 10, but I am still using 8 channels of Delta in that machine.

Thanks for that. I might get around to trying them in W10 before I sell them. It might increase their value!

I also don't use W10 in my studio... 8-)
There is no reason to if your PC does everything you need, as I'm sure you know. I 'upgraded' to W8.1, actually! :lol:

Re: Will M-Audio ever support midisport in Catalina?

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:13 pm
by Old and Unwise
HI All,

many thanks for all your comments and replies. I have had to relinquish my deep rooted faith in M-Audio - I have bitten the bullet and gone for the ESI M4U eX - hopefully this is modern enough to be supported for a while. Class compliant and launched last year, if that doesn't work I'm packing it all in!!

Incidentally - My M-Audio Oxygen 25 mk 4 is allegedly class compliant, and on M-Audio's list of items that will work with Catalina. I used to use the controllers on it to access my Soft synths in Logic. This functionality has now disappeared. Does anyone know what's going on there? I was a little despondent to discover that 'new feature'.

Re: Will M-Audio ever support midisport in Catalina?

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:06 pm
by desmond
Old and Unwise wrote:Incidentally - My M-Audio Oxygen 25 mk 4 is allegedly class compliant, and on M-Audio's list of items that will work with Catalina. I used to use the controllers on it to access my Soft synths in Logic. This functionality has now disappeared. Does anyone know what's going on there? I was a little despondent to discover that 'new feature'.

You'll need to be more specific about what you were doing and how, and what isn't working now.

There has been no significant change in Logic's controller handling or support for a while that would affect this...

Re: Will M-Audio ever support midisport in Catalina?

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 6:02 pm
by Old and Unwise
Hi Desmond,

Whilst I don't use it over-much, when I used the Oxygen 25 before Catalina, it seemed that some of the synth controls (the principal ones, I imagined) were mapped automatically to the rotary pot controllers C1 to C8 - not always for every synth, but for most. Now - nothing. I can't be absolute about the when's and what's of this as I don't use soft synths massively, but when I needed to previously (say in a project to write a song requiring certain sounds), I could twiddle and modify sounds - that functionality has gone now. Whether its one of the Logic changes, or due to Catalina, or indeed something else, I don't know. But I was certainly fed up when I went back to utilise this useful feature only to find it to be gone. If I could get it back I would be one happy bunny.

(NB - The pads on the keyboard (1-8) still trigger sounds that seem to automatically configure depending on what soft synth you have in Logic. The octave shift keys and the pitch and mod wheels C15 and C16 continue to function as before. I never used the transport keys C11-14 so I don't know whether these have stopped working now, or never actually worked anyway.)

Re: Will M-Audio ever support midisport in Catalina?

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 6:17 pm
by desmond
Old and Unwise wrote:Whilst I don't use it over-much, when I used the Oxygen 25 before Catalina, it seemed that some of the synth controls (the principal ones, I imagined) were mapped automatically to the rotary pot controllers C1 to C8 - not always for every synth, but for most. Now - nothing.

Perhaps you mean the automatic mapping of Smart Controls for some supported controllers..?

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/l ... 5020b0/mac

Re: Will M-Audio ever support midisport in Catalina?

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2020 5:08 pm
by Old and Unwise
Hi Desmond. We are on the same page now eh :). Thanks for your post.

I have tried uninstalling the device, deleting it out of lists in the controllers section, rebooting, replugging...I don't get the message to automatically configure.

If there is some kind of sequence I need to follow, I haven't found it yet.

Sadly I don't have the time to just play with it until it works either. If there's some simple advice you can offer which will magically sort it, brilliant. If not, don't worry, I'll have to figure it out on a needs must basis.

Cheers

Re: Will M-Audio ever support midisport in Catalina?

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 6:08 am
by Old and Unwise
Found this - resets the thing so the keyboard is recognised as a first time connection :

“You can delete your user preferences and see if this will solve your problem.

Before deleting user preferences, note any specific preference settings that you’ve made, and save any custom key commands you've created. Deleting preferences removes any custom preference settings and custom key commands.
To delete the user preferences, do the following:
Quit Logic Pro X.
In the Finder, choose Go > Go to Folder.
Enter ~/Library/Preferences, then click Go.
Remove the "com.apple.logic10.plist" file from the Preferences folder.
If you upgraded from an earlier version of Logic Pro, also remove the "com.apple.logic.pro" file.
Restart your Mac.
After deleting preferences, open your project and try to reproduce the issue that you were experiencing. If the issue no longer occurs, open Logic Pro X preferences, reapply your custom settings, and import your custom key commands.”

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250438384

I think this is reasonably common knowledge amongst the enlightened, I’ve seen people posting about preferences folders before. I hope this helps someone else though.