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Are these 'pseudo room' mix plugins like Waves Abbey Road studio a useful headphone mixing tool

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:47 pm
by Hazer
I'm not at any point going to get the room I try and mix in properly treated therefore I am looking at these mix room types of plugins, anyone know if they are a good tool, i.e. significantly superior to mixing on headphones alone?

Re: Are these 'pseudo room' mix plugins like Waves Abbey Road studio a useful headphone mixing tool

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:36 pm
by w oxo cube
Seems to me they are about as useful as a speaker review on Youtube.

Sonarworks of cause is a different story as it flattens your frequency response.

But the waves thing nah, not for me.

Re: Are these 'pseudo room' mix plugins like Waves Abbey Road studio a useful headphone mixing tool

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:51 pm
by The Elf
My suggestion is to get used to what good commercial mixes sound like on your headphones of choice and let you ears tell you where your own mixes are in relation. The less between your audio and your ears the better, IMHO.

Re: Are these 'pseudo room' mix plugins like Waves Abbey Road studio a useful headphone mixing tool

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:01 pm
by Hazer
I ended up getting it as it was on special plus a free plugin :oops: From what I've read in terms of reviews it's a good reference to switch between phones when mixing.

Re: Are these 'pseudo room' mix plugins like Waves Abbey Road studio a useful headphone mixing tool

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:27 pm
by James Perrett
The Elf wrote:My suggestion is to get used to what good commercial mixes sound like on your headphones of choice and let you ears tell you where your own mixes are in relation. The less between your audio and your ears the better, IMHO.

I'd totally agree with this - I prefer the monitoring chain to be as simple as possible.

Re: Are these 'pseudo room' mix plugins like Waves Abbey Road studio a useful headphone mixing tool

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:35 pm
by CS70
+1 on what the Elf says. Get used to the cans, or get better cans.

And try out your mix on different playback systems.. the worse your monitoring at the mixing seat, the more out want to check elsewhere as well.

I guess these "pseudo room" products could simplify that part a bit, you can try referencing good mixes when they are active and learn how things behave, so you can see how a good mix is affected by them and copy - it's another tool in the toolbox.

Re: Are these 'pseudo room' mix plugins like Waves Abbey Road studio a useful headphone mixing tool

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:56 pm
by blinddrew
I'll lob my usual comment in here, I use sonarworks on my headphones as I find it makes them tonally more consistent with my speakers.

Re: Are these 'pseudo room' mix plugins like Waves Abbey Road studio a useful headphone mixing tool

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:28 pm
by Martin Walker
blinddrew wrote:I'll lob my usual comment in here, I use sonarworks on my headphones as I find it makes them tonally more consistent with my speakers.

Same here, so seconded.


Martin

Re: Are these 'pseudo room' mix plugins like Waves Abbey Road studio a useful headphone mixing tool

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:51 pm
by Andy McBain
blinddrew wrote:I'll lob my usual comment in here, I use sonarworks on my headphones as I find it makes them tonally more consistent with my speakers.

Thirded! :)

Re: Are these 'pseudo room' mix plugins like Waves Abbey Road studio a useful headphone mixing tool

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:46 pm
by ambientgeneration
I find it useful - makes it sound like you are in a room listening with speakers as opposed to headphones. Of course not saying it is as good as having speakers - but if that's just not possible ...

I use it with Beyerdynamic DT 880 Pros (250 ohm) which they have a default EQ setting for as well. Personally I use it instead of Sonarworks which I also have due to the room emulation.