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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby blinddrew » Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:18 pm

Thanks John, thinking about which kidney I don't need. ;)
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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby Trevor Johnson » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:38 pm

The MD421 has that quintessential late 50s, early 60s look, which I love.

But, you would be far better off with an AKG, "dual dynamic" 202 (and variants/successors), than the MD421. But the Sennheiser looks good on Deutschland 83, etc.!

(Except that you can't buy a new 202, 224, but you can the MD421. A remanufactured 202 would be extremely expensive, I think).
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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby Mike Stranks » Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:11 pm

I really liked the 200/202/222/224 back in the day.

But you have to be really careful if buying secondhand. There are a lot out there that are working, but nor properly - one capsule u/s etc. - as I know to my cost with a 224 bought several years ago.
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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby Arpangel » Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:50 pm

The 421 is just great, we all know that, I’m not going to be churlish and not buy one.
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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby Ronnie Wibbley » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:03 pm

I don't need one.

I don't need one.

I don't need one.

Where are they selling them at that price? ;)
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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby Arpangel » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:07 pm

Ronnie Wibbley wrote:I don't need one.

I don't need one.

I don't need one.

Where are they selling them at that price? ;)

Every nun needs a 421....

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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby wireman » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:15 pm

Ronnie Wibbley wrote:I don't need one.
I don't need one.

I wold own a lot less if I took note of that.

Now if someone would sell the EV RE20 at half price or some of the DPAs at 1/10 price...
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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby Watchmaker » Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:43 am

I've been wanting one (ok six) since the 80's when I was at recording school. I have bought seemingly everything but..until now!
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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby DC-Choppah » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:01 pm

I tried lots of mics on toms and the MK 421 has a certain classic sound. Sort of scoops up all the depth and bass and brings it into the mic cable. It seems to interact with the drum so that the combo of mic and drum works.

But I got these (Sennheiser e-604) https://en-us.sennheiser.com/instrument ... ents-e-604

Much more convenient to mount and can give the same sound to my ear.
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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby zenguitar » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:32 pm

Appear to be in stock at GAK. I've ordered a pair.

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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby sound bites » Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:14 pm

Watchmaker wrote:I've been wanting one (ok six) since the 80's when I was at recording school. I have bought seemingly everything but..until now!
I totally get it....but, just be aware they are not quite the same as what they were in the 70’s or 80’s. You might not get what you expect...
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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby shufflebeat » Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:57 pm

DC-Choppah wrote:...I got these (Sennheiser e-604) https://en-us.sennheiser.com/instrument ... ents-e-604

Much more convenient to mount and can give the same sound to my ear.

Nice, our drummer (folkie/country) uses four of those plus the e602 in the kick. My little Audix f-something on the HH and no overheads. Compact and focussed.
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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby Mike Stranks » Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:42 am

sound bites wrote:
Watchmaker wrote:I've been wanting one (ok six) since the 80's when I was at recording school. I have bought seemingly everything but..until now!
I totally get it....but, just be aware they are not quite the same as what they were in the 70’s or 80’s. You might not get what you expect...

Interesting... In what way do you think they're different now from what they were 'back in the day'?

Colour and connector excepted of course. :)
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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby sound bites » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:56 pm

...certainly colour, and I’m not referring to the white/grey or black. A lot of people say the new ones have more of modern presence. Now, this could be due to them just not having aged and the vintage ones sound as pleasing as they do because they have. Just something to consider when in the market for an md 421, what to go for.
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Re: Sennheiser selling MD421-II at £179 for October !

Postby Mike Stranks » Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:12 pm

Ah! My quick scurry around the Internet has found the following in more than one place:

"Greg Beebe at Sennheiser wrote a while ago in response to this question. He said:

"There are four significant differences between the MD421-U and MD421 II.

Easier positioning:
-The metal inner chassis has better distribution of weight.
-The bass roll-off is contour fitted to the housing making the mic shorter and more "stylish"

More durable:
-Housing is made of polyacetals: a glass composite
-Basket is hardened stainless steel

More immune to the elements:
-The acoustic components are enclosed in the inner chassis making the mic less sensitive to dusts and humidity.

Easier Servicing:
-Individual components can easily be replaced
-Self-sealing acoustic connections: no adhesive or sealing compounds.

The MD421 II does sound different. It has improved transparency, thus a more natural sound. We changed because of improved technologies. New materials and production techniques which enable us to manufacture at even closer tolerances.

Coincidentally, this was not the first time we changed the MD421. We are constantly striving to improve our products. Over the years, the MD421 has seen upgrades in the housing, output connector, basket and capsule assembly.

In my personal opinion, the MD421 II has been accepted, for the most part, as the replacement for the original. However, as you know, there are die hards who swear by the original. Interesting enough, the biggest complaint on the original was the clip. I've not receive one complaint about the clip since the redesign. I attribute this to the mic being more balanced. Now the clip pivots on the mic's fulcrum point." "


Does anyone remember/have a version with the clip that 'surrounds' the mic rather than just slide into a groove on the base?
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