Arpangel wrote:This is a well known issue...
Arrrggghhhh ....... It's not an 'issue', it's an intentional design feature that is clearly explained in the manual.
I really don’t know why they didn’t allow the ALT out to access the aux sends
First, the pre-fade Aux send still works when the Mute/Alt button is pressed. It's only the post-fade auxes that are muted...
And they are muted intentionally because the button is primarily a MUTE button. So it mutes FX sends, but leaves foldback unaffected. Exactly what it's supposed to do, and what most people need it to do.
The ALT output facility using the same MUTE button is a potentially useful extra function because it could be added for minimal cost -- but it is not a 'true' sub-group output and it inherently doesn't -- and can't -- have the same facilities as normal group routing in a bigger desk designed with conventional subgroups!
I can’t see any positive reason to do this, it’s very frustrating...
That's because you want to use a tiny desk for something that it wasn't designed to be used for, and you either didn't read, or have forgotten, the explanation about the Mute/Alt button provided in the manual.
There are plenty of applications where the provision of the Alt output is really, really useful... but it's plainly not suited to your requirements! You have the wrong desk being used in the wrong way!
...I’m going to get a Behringer XENYX X1622 it has a proper sub group, and hopefully, it won’t cut off my aux sends..
The manual doesn't include a block diagram, sadly, but it does explain that the Mute button kills post-fade auxes and leaves pre-fade auxes active -- just like the Mackie.... Funny that!
As for the group routing, I can only presume the channel output routing works like any other desk with dedicated main/group routing buttons and dedicated subgroups... I can't see anything to indicate it does anything unusual. So I'd presume it works in exactly the same way as the larger Mackie consoles designed with subgroups... can't imagine why.... :silent: