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Re: Ordering from Thomann...

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:00 pm
by CS70
Music Wolf wrote:
CS70 wrote:
Music Wolf wrote:and eventually whether or not PRS guitars were only played by Dentists

That's the easy one.

I occasionally play a PRS (such as in this video) and I am most definitely not a dentist! :lol:
I'm down to 3 at the moment, and I'm not even qualified as a Hygienist. I can only think of one Dentist that plays guitar, Mark Bowen from the band IDLES. He’s clearly more of a Fender man.
Image

There's something Lemmy about this :bouncy:

Re: Ordering from Thomann...

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:24 pm
by blinddrew
That is a ridiculous lack of guitar strap and excess of insulation tape!

(I also have a PRS and no qualifications in dentistry other than taking off my own braces when I was about 13)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:38 pm
by The Elf
desmond wrote:Another win for the Brexiteers! :clap:
Well, in a way it *is*, if we all start buying from UK suppliers!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:21 pm
by Sam Spoons
The Elf wrote:
desmond wrote:Another win for the Brexiteers! :clap:
Well, in a way it *is*, if we all start buying from UK suppliers!

As exports from UK manufacturers will be hit by duty charged by other countries we should probably be "Buying British" or at least from British businesses where possible. :madas:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:22 pm
by Mike Stranks
Well, in a way it *is*, if we all start buying from UK suppliers!

Absolutely!

[What follows isn't a 'pop' at you M'sieur Elf - just me pointing out that a client and I were already well down a specific road before the UK left the free-market.]

Problem for me is that no-one else sells gear that's comparable to the gear I've spec'd for this install.

This all started back in Sept/Oct and there have been delays on the client-side which are perfectly understandable - although I had given a 'Brexit-alert' when I drew up the spec.

When they gave me the green light I pointed out the potential pitfalls and started searching for alternative suppliers at Thomann-equivalent prices (factoring in VAT and import duties of course). Couldn't be done...

So... do I start from scratch, completely re-speccing and coming up with a different solution - and inevitable client-side approval delays - or go for Thomann? In this case I opted for the latter option as the least worse one.

If I was buying for myself, both now and in the future, I'd almost certainly 'buy-British' - whatever that means these days! :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:40 pm
by MOF
MOF wrote:
Inevitably there will be teething problems moving from EU membership to independent trading nation.

independent trading nations FTFY

A bit of a grey area that, Britain is a trading nation with a common currency (although at one point the Scottish pound was valued less than the rest of Britain’s pound) and common external border. So I’m not sure I agree with you.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:17 pm
by blinddrew
I suppose there is an argument that as the rules are different in NI there is a lack of consistency across the UK. I'm not sure where we stand with the devolution of powers as well; as I understand it, for example, agriculture is a devolved issue, so if Scotland decide to have different standards*, then you'd have different import requirements depending on where in the UK you were importing your goods to.

* May well happen given the trade bill just passed in the HoC.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:46 pm
by fsrecords
For whatever this is worth...

I sympathise with the OP - I was lucky enough to get my install order (for a similar overall amount) in before Brexit, and I share the opinion that Thomann offers things others do not. I've just recently ordered a couple of bits from Thomann post-Brexit. Said order consisted of some Sommer cable (by the metre) and a TC Electronic Clarity M.

I was expecting customs charges from UPS when it arrived but none such have yet made their way to me. I'll keep you posted if I get any, or indeed find out why this is the case. As others have intimated, it may have something to do with exactly what I've ordered.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:29 pm
by JRC1
Im more annoyed* you received your order you placed after brexit as I'm still waiting for my mid december one that has been shipped. going to have to chase that up.

*this wont be the case soon

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:02 pm
by N i g e l
MOF wrote:.... independent trading nations FTFY

A bit of a grey area that, Britain is a trading nation with a common currency (although at one point the Scottish pound was valued less than the rest of Britain’s pound) and common external border. So I’m not sure I agree with you.

I am probably comming from the point of view of Nation as a geographical term or "4 Nations Sporting event" type thing.

Britian is the mainland
Great Britian - as above + assorted islands
UK - as above + NI
British isles - Great Britian + Ireland {definitely geographical}

which reminds me of extra online postage for HIghlands & islands, was N.I. included in that ? it probably will be now.

MOF wrote:.... (although at one point the Scottish pound was valued less than the rest of Britain’s pound)

not in my life time but today, a Scottish £100 note is more valuable than an English one ;)

lets not tempt fate ! there is a parlimentary election coming up and the precedent for bodgedup borders has been set.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:20 am
by fsrecords
JRC1 wrote:Im more annoyed* you received your order you placed after brexit as I'm still waiting for my mid december one that has been shipped. going to have to chase that up.

*this wont be the case soon

I'm sorry - I wasn't trying to rub your face in it, honest. If it's helpful, I placed the order on 3rd Jan and it came on 12th. Slightly slower than normal but not hugely.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:42 pm
by wireman
Hugh Robjohns wrote:Duty is dependent on what the product is and what tarrif (if any) has been agreed with the EU. To find out, you need to identify the appropriate 'commodity code', and then look up what the rate of duty is. It's all in here:

I once imported a crown from the USA for a local gala event (from a pageant supplier). It was really nontrivial to work out what the correct code was, I had to phone a customs advice line and even then it took some time.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:59 pm
by Scouser
Just to say DV24/7 is another supplier badly affected by brexit, made quite a large order, they didn't include new vat receipt, which meant package was stuck in UK for 2 weeks, which meant it was no longer any use, as it was for a project i had a limited time to complete.

Had to cancel order and 3 weeks later still waiting for a refund, spoke to them on a couple of occasions, very poor customer services, have ordered lots of stuff in the past, from them.

Whilst I appreciate there will be teething problems, this went above and beyond, won't be ordering anything from Europe in future, if I need it in a hurry.

Re: Ordering from Thomann...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:27 pm
by JRC1
fsrecords wrote:
JRC1 wrote:Im more annoyed* you received your order you placed after brexit as I'm still waiting for my mid december one that has been shipped. going to have to chase that up.

*this wont be the case soon

I'm sorry - I wasn't trying to rub your face in it, honest. If it's helpful, I placed the order on 3rd Jan and it came on 12th. Slightly slower than normal but not hugely.

It's nothing at you dont worry I like you have never had a thomann order take more than a few days. I think possibly it was because I ordered an item out of stock and then we had the whole DHL not flying issue and it just means my order is probably in some freight container that got held up at customs.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:37 pm
by uselessoldman
Years gone past I have bought guitars from EU CHina and USA and paid the 4% import duty NOW they want an extra 20% VAT on top !!! This includes second hand and no matter whether its complete or in pieces as this was one way round the import duty. I can understand the logic BUT its a killer cos its going to increase prices of kit based here in the UK since its less competitive buying direct from China etc as I have done before. Even if you go abroad and buy it, customs are going to demand you pay import duty and VAT on goods you bring back.

I am trying to get my bro in the USA to order me some stuff from China and send it to me as a present, I am hoping his might get round the SCAM