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A Shout Out for the Gerzon Array

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:12 pm
by Bob Bickerton
I recently recorded a series of concerts in a chamber music festival in a local hall which is renowned for its acoustics - for chamber music.

My standard set-up has been an ORTF pair of Neumann TLM193 cardioid mics, with a spaced pair of Sennheiser MKH 8020 omnis at around 60cm to add more room to taste. I believe this is known as one of Tony Faulkner arrays. Radio New Zealand who normally record the festival often use a similar setup.

I was fascinated to read Hugh’s article on what he called the Gerzon Array in the November issue, that is cardioid SDCs with 50mm spacing and a 120 degree mutual angle. I had the luxury of three days of rehearsals, so I put up the Gerzon array as comparison to my usual set up and decided I preferred it - once the ‘shuffling’ technique was applied. The shuffling seems to give me the perceived spaciousness that I achieved by adding omnis to the ORTF mix previously, but with no ‘sonic degradation’ as noted by Hugh. I’m using a pair of Sennheiser MKH8040s for this and the SSL X-EQ 2 plug in to apply side eq.

I’m curious to know why this technique isn’t more widely known as it seems a perfect solution, at least in the above scenario. Is it because the technique of shuffling is now so easy to execute in a DAW? And also, are there any downsides? Almost seems too good to be true....... I’m a long time ORTFy (with occasional unsuccessful distractions along the way), so I’m wondering if this might be my new first approach in situations like the above.

It’ll be interesting to hear what RNZ think of it when I submit the files.

Bob

Re: A Shout Out for the Gerzon Array

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:24 pm
by Aled Hughes
It was a fascinating article, and I look forward to trying the technique out myself as well.

Re: A Shout Out for the Gerzon Array

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:13 pm
by Hugh Robjohns
Bob Bickerton wrote:I put up the Gerzon array as comparison to my usual set up and decided I preferred it - once the ‘shuffling’ technique was applied. The shuffling seems to give me the perceived spaciousness that I achieved by adding omnis to the ORTF mix previously, but with no ‘sonic degradation’ as noted by Hugh.

Excellent news! I'm really glad you liked it. And yes, the shuffling is the critical key to its success.

I’m curious to know why this technique isn’t more widely known as it seems a perfect solution, at least in the above scenario. Is it because the technique of shuffling is now so easy to execute in a DAW?

Weird, isn't it? I guess it was the shuffling that probably put people off it just because it was so hard or inconvenient to do in the analogue world. And without the shuffling it's not a particularly impressive sounding array.

And also, are there any downsides?


Not that I'm aware of -- other than the shuffling requirement, and the need for mics with *really* good off-axis responses.

It’ll be interesting to hear what RNZ think of it when I submit the files.

Please let us know -- and thanks for the feedback on your experience with the array. :-D

Re: A Shout Out for the Gerzon Array

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:31 pm
by Bob Bickerton
Thanks Hugh.

Will let you know how it goes.

Bob