This guy is amazing, his studio, perfect, even though I’m not making this type of music, I love the way he’s got things set-up, I can identify with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46eJcMkRY4s
Also, that spring reverb :shocked:
It’s just beyond, totally mind blowing....
https://www.rubadub.co.uk/benidub-spring-amp-ii-sping-reverb-amplifier
Of course as usual, and in-keeping with anything I want these days it’s OUT OF STOCK :(
I love this way of working, it applies to so many fields of music, he does have UAD stuff, which is interesting, I think for the vintage effects.
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Dub and spring reverbs.
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
I have a nice Keeley spring emu pedal, but the new gamechanger audio pedal looks really good
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
Arp mate. If you want to add some retro 'clang' to your mixes you don't need that dedicated tank driver.
You can use a small mixer to drive the input coil from the headphone output (many cheap amps use the feeble TL072) Then return the signal to a line or mic channel. Or you could use a small hi fi amplifier. Lots of ways to skin this cat, I am sure you will work it out!
For some numbers? "Fender" style reverb channels used the ECC82 valve (some the 81) and that probably puts about half a watt into the drive coil but you can get away with a lot less, just need more 'makeup' gain.
The rare and very expensive Fender stand alone reverb unit used a 6V6 so hitting the tank with about four watts! I do however hear from a good friend amp tech that reverb tanks are not as tough as they were so go easy!
Dave.
You can use a small mixer to drive the input coil from the headphone output (many cheap amps use the feeble TL072) Then return the signal to a line or mic channel. Or you could use a small hi fi amplifier. Lots of ways to skin this cat, I am sure you will work it out!
For some numbers? "Fender" style reverb channels used the ECC82 valve (some the 81) and that probably puts about half a watt into the drive coil but you can get away with a lot less, just need more 'makeup' gain.
The rare and very expensive Fender stand alone reverb unit used a 6V6 so hitting the tank with about four watts! I do however hear from a good friend amp tech that reverb tanks are not as tough as they were so go easy!
Dave.
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
ef37a wrote:Arp mate. If you want to add some retro 'clang' to your mixes you don't need that dedicated tank driver.
You can use a small mixer to drive the input coil from the headphone output (many cheap amps use the feeble TL072) Then return the signal to a line or mic channel. Or you could use a small hi fi amplifier. Lots of ways to skin this cat, I am sure you will work it out!
For some numbers? "Fender" style reverb channels used the ECC82 valve (some the 81) and that probably puts about half a watt into the drive coil but you can get away with a lot less, just need more 'makeup' gain.
The rare and very expensive Fender stand alone reverb unit used a 6V6 so hitting the tank with about four watts! I do however hear from a good friend amp tech that reverb tanks are not as tough as they were so go easy!
Dave.
Thanks Dave, I’m just wondering though, how much of the sound is attributed to the unit, rather than the spring? It does sound extraordinarily good, very spacey.
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
Arpangel wrote:ef37a wrote:Arp mate. If you want to add some retro 'clang' to your mixes you don't need that dedicated tank driver.
You can use a small mixer to drive the input coil from the headphone output (many cheap amps use the feeble TL072) Then return the signal to a line or mic channel. Or you could use a small hi fi amplifier. Lots of ways to skin this cat, I am sure you will work it out!
For some numbers? "Fender" style reverb channels used the ECC82 valve (some the 81) and that probably puts about half a watt into the drive coil but you can get away with a lot less, just need more 'makeup' gain.
The rare and very expensive Fender stand alone reverb unit used a 6V6 so hitting the tank with about four watts! I do however hear from a good friend amp tech that reverb tanks are not as tough as they were so go easy!
Dave.
Thanks Dave, I’m just wondering though, how much of the sound is attributed to the unit, rather than the spring? It does sound extraordinarily good, very spacey.
Oh COME on! Spring reverbs are g'awful things from a sound quality point of view. Full of resonances and colourations. I doubt the transducers are very linear. I put one in a 100W valve amp for a famous guitarist*, company favour (never got a drink either!) and had to work up a notch filter to pull out a nasty honk. In other words, it is ALL about the spring!
You do not want to hit them with much below about 150Hz and a sweepable mid filter would be very useful.
*Hank Marvin told me years ago "never name drop"
Dave.
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
Arpangel wrote:Also, that spring reverb :shocked:
It’s just beyond, totally mind blowing....
https://www.rubadub.co.uk/benidub-spring-amp-ii-sping-reverb-amplifier
Power supply and spring tank not included... :think: :shocked: And its the spring tank that really defines the sound, naturally!
Loving the video, though. Everything sounds better with a shedload of delays and reverbs piled on top. Reminds me of all those 'legalise cannabis' gigs I mixed when at college... I can still smell them now... :lol:
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
Very cool. Making me realise that I should probably get my act together and finish building my pedal rig...
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
Arpangel wrote:Of course as usual, and in-keeping with anything I want these days it’s OUT OF STOCK :(
Yes, ive been wondering about that. When window shopping online recently i have noticed that there seems to be a lot of items with long lead times "delivery in MAY" etc. As if the factory gates are open but production is on a goslow.
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
Saw this in a mail shot recently. Haven't tried it or heard it, but it does look interesting. And yes, it is fashionably available for pre-order. What we call 'out of stock'.
https://www.andertons.co.uk/gamechanger ... f23dfc1621
Andy :beamup:
https://www.andertons.co.uk/gamechanger ... f23dfc1621
Andy :beamup:
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
zenguitar wrote:Saw this in a mail shot recently. Haven't tried it or heard it, but it does look interesting. And yes, it is fashionably available for pre-order. What we call 'out of stock'.
https://www.andertons.co.uk/gamechanger ... f23dfc1621
Andy :beamup:
That is a brand new product and YouTube is full of reviews.
So I suspect when it is actually released stock will be hard to come by.
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
ef37a wrote:Oh COME on! Spring reverbs are g'awful things from a sound quality point of view. Full of resonances and colourations. I doubt the transducers are very linear. I put one in a 100W valve amp for a famous guitarist*, company favour (never got a drink either!) and had to work up a notch filter to pull out a nasty honk. In other words, it is ALL about the spring!
You do not want to hit them with much below about 150Hz and a sweepable mid filter would be very useful.
*Hank Marvin told me years ago "never name drop"
Dave.
That’s their charm, the colourations, if you mix them in with a high quality digital reverb you get some lovely effects.
Mixing on a board like that with it all in front of you, no substitute.
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
Arpangel wrote:ef37a wrote:Oh COME on! Spring reverbs are g'awful things from a sound quality point of view. Full of resonances and colourations. I doubt the transducers are very linear. I put one in a 100W valve amp for a famous guitarist*, company favour (never got a drink either!) and had to work up a notch filter to pull out a nasty honk. In other words, it is ALL about the spring!
You do not want to hit them with much below about 150Hz and a sweepable mid filter would be very useful.
*Hank Marvin told me years ago "never name drop"
Dave.
That’s their charm, the colourations, if you mix them in with a high quality digital reverb you get some lovely effects.
Mixing on a board like that with it all in front of you, no substitute.
Yer not wiv me Tone. I am saying the spring effects make any electronics contribution virtually inaudible, apart from FR.
Dave.
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
If you’re looking for a cheaper and more readily available alternative to the Fender reverb tank, there’s only one option: Surfy Bear.
https://www.gak.co.uk/en/surfy-industries?page=0#&auto=true&b=1424
https://www.gak.co.uk/en/surfy-industries?page=0#&auto=true&b=1424
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
I’ve decided, this is all too much, reverb tanks, power supplies, I’m asleep already.
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Re: Dub and spring reverbs.
That didn't take long! :D
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