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Postby Arpangel » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:53 am

I’m sorting out a few things, and need to rewire some cables to custom lengths, years ago I used to get cable, plugs, from Studiospares, all was fine, 50m drums of twin foil screened cable, and packs of plain, cheap, mono/stereo metal jacks.
Now these things seem hard to come by, I can’t seem to locate any drums of thin cable, or those plain metal jacks, which I like as they are easy to label, and don’t take up much space.
Before I do any of this, I need a new soldering iron, I currently have a 15w Antex, which seems to struggle sometimes, any recommendations for a new iron would be very welcome.
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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby Bob Bickerton » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:04 am

On the advice of a friend who was a technician for Airways Corporation I finally bought myself a half-decent soldering station - well worth it!!!!

I bought a Hakko fx-888 , which is available in the UK here: https://www.hakko.co.uk/hakko-fx-888d-digital-soldering-station.html

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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby Luke W » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:14 am

I tend to get a lot of my bits from a combination of Studiospares, Rapid Electronics or RS Components, just depending on who has what available at the time. It looks like CPC do cheap TS/TRS plugs, their website is down at the moment though when I follow any links.

I've also heard good things about the Hakko stations, no personal experience with them though.
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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby Arpangel » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:36 am

Thanks Bob, Luke, I’ll check out those irons.
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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby Arpangel » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:48 am

Just checked them out.....

https://www.hakko.co.uk/hakko-fx-888d-digital-soldering-station.html

Looks great, but it’ll be a bit OTT for me, as a lot of you know, I’m not a regular user, occasional leads and that’s about it.
Having trouble finding drums of thin foil cable, and straight plugs.
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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:02 am

I bought a drum of FST cable from Canford a couple of years ago, they were the cheapest at the time. Currently 59p/m for a 100 m drum.

https://www.canford.co.uk/Products/31-001_CANFORD-FST-CABLE-1-pair-Black

+1 for a temp controlled soldering station. Mine came from Maplin though so no longer available...
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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby Arpangel » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:10 am

Sam Spoons wrote:I bought a drum of FST cable from Canford a couple of years ago, they were the cheapest at the time. Currently 59p/m for a 100 m drum.

https://www.canford.co.uk/Products/31-001_CANFORD-FST-CABLE-1-pair-Black

+1 for a temp controlled soldering station. Mine came from Maplin though so no longer available...

I did see that cable, looks like it might do, what’s the deal with Canford?, do you have to have an account?

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All sorted, at least for the cable, Canford are very nice to deal with.
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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:54 am

No, no account necessary IIRC and easy to deal with.
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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby James Perrett » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:05 am

This is the closest I could find to the kind of iron that I've always used

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/soldering-irons/1626760/

While 60W may seem excessive, it is temperature controlled which means that it won't overheat the small joints while keeping plenty of heat in reserve for the larger joints.
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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby pk.roberts » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:09 am

I've used these connectors for 'non-road' use and they've been fine. Handy to have the variety of coloured chucks and the lighter colours are easy to label up with a fine Sharpy. T/S version in stock - T/R/S due in next week.

https://cpc.farnell.com/pulse/pls00209/ ... ack%20plug
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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby James Perrett » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:13 am

As far as connectors are concerned, I can't get onto the CPC website at the moment but Rapid have a selection...

https://www.rapidonline.com/truconnect- ... ug-20-0070

or Neutrik

https://www.rapidonline.com/neutrik-ag- ... ug-20-2183

If you need TRS

https://www.rapidonline.com/neutrik-ag- ... ug-20-2185
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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby Arpangel » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:36 am

James Perrett wrote:This is the closest I could find to the kind of iron that I've always used

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/soldering-irons/1626760/" target="phpbbpopup

While 60W may seem excessive, it is temperature controlled which means that it won't overheat the small joints while keeping plenty of heat in reserve for the larger joints.

I can go to that James, seems fine.

pk.roberts wrote:I've used these connectors for 'non-road' use and they've been fine. Handy to have the variety of coloured chucks and the lighter colours are easy to label up with a fine Sharpy. T/S version in stock - T/R/S due in next week.

https://cpc.farnell.com/pulse/pls00209/ ... ack%20plug" target="phpbbpopup

These are cool, colour coding will be useful.
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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby James Perrett » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:37 pm

I realised that the Weller iron I linked to was the European version. CPC has a slightly cheaper price for the UK version...

https://cpc.farnell.com/weller/w61-uk/s ... ller%20w61

Some people are happy with the cheaper temperature controlled irons but I've not used them whereas I used those Wellers (or their predecessors) for nearly 40 years.
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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby ef37a » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:13 am

https://uk.farnell.com/alpha-wire/5471c ... price=true

That looks promising for a 4mm OD foil screened cable? I have a few remnants of a red cable I bought years ago, lovely stuff, so easy to work with. The only legend on it is "Regal Wealth" and I have not been able to track it down since.

Cheap jack plugs abound I have bought shedloads from Amazon in the past but there are many other suppliers. Gold is good. SO easy to solder.

I have a Yihua 9370 solder station, about £30 iirc off'web. Not as good as my Weller Magnastat and those Hakko irons are superb but the 30 quid station does the job.

Also! Get in a goodly supply of heat shrink and some silicone sleeving.

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Re: Rewiring, cable, plugs.

Postby Arpangel » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:04 am

ef37a wrote:
Also! Get in a goodly supply of heat shrink and some silicone sleeving.

Dave.

Good point, now I’ll need a heat gun!

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