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Recording electric violin

Postby rooter » Tue May 04, 2021 7:27 pm

I have recorded my electric violin into some projects in ableton.Whilst I am no nigel kennedy (or even dave swarbrick) some sound ok but others could do with a tonal boost.Could anyone recommend a vst or post recording technique I could try to give them a lift -thanks
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Re: Recording electric violin

Postby shufflebeat » Tue May 04, 2021 7:29 pm

What's your pickup?
What's your DAW? (Oops, you said Ableton).

Best results I've had have been a combination of IR loader (Reaverb in Reaper) for tonal "correction" and non-convolution reverb (Dragonfly is nice).
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Re: Recording electric violin

Postby rooter » Sat May 08, 2021 2:45 pm

Thanks for reply.I have used a ir loader but am I right in thinking these will give mainly cab simulations or can I get ir files for acoustic instruments anywhere preferably free lol?
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Re: Recording electric violin

Postby shufflebeat » Sun May 09, 2021 1:43 am

Have a read of this lot and come back to us:

http://acousticir.free.fr/spip.php?article136
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Re: Recording electric violin

Postby BenWilesMusic » Sun May 09, 2021 2:24 am

Hi. Your question seems odd to me. Electric violin, like electric guitar, is usually played through effects pedals and an amp (or amp sim), which gives it a tone quite unlike the acoustic violin. Are you trying to make your recordings sound like an acoustic violin? If so, a violin resonance IR will help (I know they exist but am not sure where to find one). This models the resonance of the violin body and air cavity, which is what makes an acoustic violin sound the way it does - but it probably will never sound *quite* like a well miked acoustic violin, just as an electric guitar through an acoustic stimulator never sounds *quite* like an acoustic guitar.

Or are you trying to thicken the sound up, add weight, sparkle, or something else? If so, a combination of effects such as EQ, delay, chorus, saturation and distortion are what you should go for - probably followed by an amp and speaker sim. I don't use Ableton, but if it has a guitar effects or pedalboard plugin, that would be a good place to start.

Hope that helps a little bit.
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Re: Recording electric violin

Postby rooter » Sun May 09, 2021 7:09 pm

Thanks for your replies guys.The john fields stuff is wayyy beyond me!What I want to do is basically improve if possible the tonal quality of some of my recordings so what BenWiles music has said is very relevant
If only there were plugins to improve the actual performance lol!
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Re: Recording electric violin

Postby Sam Spoons » Sun May 09, 2021 7:23 pm

No it needs to be hardware :-

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Re: Recording electric violin

Postby shufflebeat » Sun May 09, 2021 8:07 pm

rooter wrote:Thanks for your replies guys.The john fields stuff is wayyy beyond me!

It doesn't need to be. All you need to know it that it's really simple (and free) to create an impulse response which recreates, to some extent, the response of your soundboard and resonant chamber to the impulse of bow on string as measured at the bridge by your pickup.

If you have a convolution reverb VST in Ableton then that is normally intended for large WAV IR files which recreate large rooms with relatively long reverb times. The reverb time inside your fiddle is very short so the file is tiny and the processing power needed is much smaller so will not stress your system.
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