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Running out of inputs, mixer and/or interface?

Postby Arpangel » Thu May 06, 2021 10:35 am

I’ll say this already, there has to be a mixer in there somewhere, for live mixing, so not solely an interface.
I've got my A&H Mix Wiz and I’m really happy with it, but now I’ve grown out of it, options?
Get an ADAT expander for my Motu 828, and connect "another" mixer to that, or just get a bigger mixer, maybe one with USB?
Or, the digital mixer option, but we’ve been there, not enough real-time knobs.
I see I my head, just a duplicate system to what I’ve got already, a mixer, and an expander, I really don’t want to get rid of the A&H, it’s fantastic, so maybe just another MixWiz, or a bigger A&H?

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Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu May 06, 2021 10:38 am

Arpangel wrote:I got my A&H Mix Wiz and I’m really happy with it, but now I’ve grown out of it, options?

Buy the bigger mixer you were always going to need?

Don't buy another small mixer like you already have because you'll just be back in three months complaining that you can't route signals between them and the effects pedal you want for Synth A plugging in to Mixer A is always connected to Mixer B... :lol:
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Postby The Korff » Thu May 06, 2021 10:43 am

Yes, just buy a massive mixer if you need that many channels. There's a glut of second-hand ones for sale at bargain prices too. I've literally just seen a 32-channel Midas Verona on FB Marketplace for 800 quid; it's a good enough mixer for Matt Berry: https://www.soundonsound.com/people/matt-berry
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Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu May 06, 2021 10:49 am

Yes, Chris. Some real bargains out there... but Tony won't want to do that because it won't fit in his basement studio. We have been around that particular loop before... more than once...
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Postby Arpangel » Thu May 06, 2021 11:01 am

Hugh Robjohns wrote:Yes, Chris. Some real bargains out there... but Tony won't want to do that because it won't fit in his basement studio. We have been around that particular loop before... more than once...

I’m OK now, since the clear-out and redecorate, I’ve gained a lot of extra space, my main table is 7 X 3 ft plus I have another two side tables, each 6 X 2ft.
So I have place for a big mixer, if need be, I’m thinking maybe a Midas Venice 32, but it has a fan, that I know will annoy me.
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Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu May 06, 2021 11:16 am

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Postby Arpangel » Thu May 06, 2021 11:23 am

Hugh Robjohns wrote::thumbup:

I think a mixer "like" the Venice would be ideal, I need at least 24 inputs, lots of sends, and preferably 16 groups, that’s going to be the difficult bit.
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Postby Stickman0_3 » Thu May 06, 2021 11:32 am

If I run out of inputs on my mixer, I will run things through other synths / modules that have audio inputs.
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Re: Running out of inputs, mixer and/or interface?

Postby fatbenelton » Thu May 06, 2021 11:45 am

Speck Electronics Xtramix or perhaps an Xsum as a sub mixer into the A&H?

http://speck.com/xtramix6/xtramix_x6.html
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Re: Running out of inputs, mixer and/or interface?

Postby Arpangel » Thu May 06, 2021 12:03 pm

fatbenelton wrote:Speck Electronics Xtramix or perhaps an Xsum as a sub mixer into the A&H?

http://speck.com/xtramix6/xtramix_x6.html

Nice, but I have this dual personality, I think I need to track everything separately, which can happen, but very rarely.
Most of the time, I only track one or two things, and arrange in the DAW later.
But now, I’m putting my money where my mouth is, I’ve got an idea, which involves tracking many live sources together, at once, like I’m mixing a big live band, but this is a one man band, synths, tapes, sound effects, FX units, loopers, radios, samplers, etc etc etc.
The whole point is that I can then make alternative mixes, or completely different "performances" from the same sources.
Hence my need for a lot of sub-groups, and interface inputs.
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Postby fatbenelton » Thu May 06, 2021 12:05 pm

It's got 8 subs and direct stereo outs on each channel.....
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Re: Running out of inputs, mixer and/or interface?

Postby The Korff » Thu May 06, 2021 2:13 pm

Arpangel wrote:I’m thinking maybe a Midas Venice 32, but it has a fan

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure they don't; none of the Venices I've used have had fans...

EDIT: A bit of Googling reveals that the F- and U-series versions might well have a fan (I've only ever used the pre-FW/USB Venice 240 and 320 models).
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Re: Running out of inputs, mixer and/or interface?

Postby Arpangel » Fri May 07, 2021 7:07 am

The Korff wrote:
Arpangel wrote:I’m thinking maybe a Midas Venice 32, but it has a fan

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure they don't; none of the Venices I've used have had fans...

EDIT: A bit of Googling reveals that the F- and U-series versions might well have a fan (I've only ever used the pre-FW/USB Venice 240 and 320 models).

Yes that’s right, I’d like FireWire or USB, as I think you can multitrack digitally with these, across all channels, I was going to buy one at one point, and went to dealer to try it out, but the fan was just a bit annoying.
I’m still vaguely thinking of going digital, but I’m unsure, I’m wondering, something like the Behringer X32, how many aux sends can you have? and how quickly can you switch from one to the other?
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Re: Running out of inputs, mixer and/or interface?

Postby Mike Stranks » Fri May 07, 2021 9:09 am

Arpangel wrote:I’m wondering, something like the Behringer X32, how many aux sends can you have? and how quickly can you switch from one to the other?

https://mediadl.musictribe.com/media/sys_master/h9b/h22/8849399545886.pdf

There y'go! Happy reading!
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Re: Running out of inputs, mixer and/or interface?

Postby Arpangel » Fri May 07, 2021 9:30 am

Mike Stranks wrote:
Arpangel wrote:I’m wondering, something like the Behringer X32, how many aux sends can you have? and how quickly can you switch from one to the other?

https://mediadl.musictribe.com/media/sys_master/h9b/h22/8849399545886.pdf

There y'go! Happy reading!

Thanks Mike ooer!
That manual has scared me to death already!

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